Redsonja 3.0 U25 - TWF Pure Barb

[Eth]

Hide of the Fallen Cloak?
20% fortification bypass is the answer

How so? You still list dragon's edge on your off-hand weapon.
The cloak covers 11 strength though, which would be missing otherwise.

By the way, with the gear set in the OP listed, why not put in claw set?
Would be strictly better than Iron Mitts + 5 seeker bracers. Unless somehow having 40 vitality instead of 20 is somehow important to you.

[Stinging_Bee]

How so? You still list dragon's edge on your off-hand weapon.
The cloak covers 11 strength though, which would be missing otherwise.

By the way, with the gear set in the OP listed, why not put in claw set?
Would be strictly better than Iron Mitts + 5 seeker bracers. Unless somehow having 40 vitality instead of 20 is somehow important to you.

Good catch I meant 11 strength, my bad.
The setup posted in op is an easy to get gear list for new players.
Personally I use claw set, boots with 12 str and cloak of the wolf but it's not a gear list I would recommend to someone new to the game because I rely on Fom potion and claw set is a nightmare to farm from scratch imho

[Cryptic.Assassin]

I must say, I love the RedSonja builds! I think I have tried all of them now and I have not had any regrets during any of them. I am actually leveling a variant of this build right now and it's amazing so far. However, I did decide to go with the THF line over TWF line simply because I cannot stand the hit box of TWF style. Anyway, thanks for posting your builds! Looking forward to RS 4.0!

[Therrias]

Then there are other stuff that can help you do more damage like for example Twists and past lives.

What do you usually twist?

Sense Weakness/Balanced Attacks/Hail of Blows/Tunnel Vision for dps?

Or Sacred Ground for self healing?

[Stinging_Bee]

What do you usually twist?

Sense Weakness/Balanced Attacks/Hail of Blows/Tunnel Vision for dps?

Or Sacred Ground for self healing?

I like 4SW/3BA/2HoB/1PS
I Don't use sacred ground with this version

[Therrias]

I like 4SW/3BA/2HoB/1PS
I Don't use sacred ground with this version

I prefer to have all of them.

Have you tried out DC?

[Rogann]

and claw set is a nightmare to farm from scratch imho

I farmed a set from scratch in about 5-6 hours of play time. Super easy due to power creep.

[Shavron]

3 questions if i may ask.

1- If i've a 32 points build not 34 or 36 what do you recommend for me to drop in terms of ability points?

2- If say i don't have a +5 dex tome what is the main difference from TWF to THF?...DPS and staying "healing" power i mean.

3- How easy for barbs to solo quests?....i play solo as i don't find groups most of the time....for paladins i've no major problems.


Thanx for a nice guide.

[unbongwah]

If you're looking for a THF barb, check Zoda's thread.

[kendo]

anyone have any suggestions for updates for this build in the U29 world? with all the DR and PRR on the new quests, is Celestia looking better as an alternate weapon to hammers, instead of Balizarde especially in off-destinies?

leaning towards scion of astral plane for legendary feat. a little extra dodge, double strike and stun DCs. other option that looked interesting is Arborea for the MP and weapon enhancement

[unbongwah]

leaning towards scion of astral plane for legendary feat. a little extra dodge, double strike and stun DCs.

Note that SotAP boosts your Dodge & Dodge cap, but not your MDB; that's what's really going to constrain your Dodge bonus, particularly if you're using hvy armor like Shadow Guardian.

other option that looked interesting is Arborea for the MP and weapon enhancement

Also note that Arborea's +2 Enhancement bonus breaks Celestia's light DR, as do all such Enhancement bonuses.

[kendo]

Note that SotAP boosts your Dodge & Dodge cap, but not your MDB; that's what's really going to constrain your Dodge bonus, particularly if you're using hvy armor like Shadow Guardian.

Also note that Arborea's +2 Enhancement bonus breaks Celestia's light DR, as do all such Enhancement bonuses.

hello parade, meet rain

thank you for the warnings Unbongwah. still using medium armor but have been considering a switch to the heavy shadow plate so will have to weigh the pros and cons of that to the extra dodge, if I have enough MDB in my medium armors

with the newer content, would you recommend trying to use Celestia, assuming one can avoid all the ways it breaks, as a swap weapon for demon heavy content? or better to just rely on the heavy damage of a barb to push on through and take Arborea?

[Spellonzo]

So I've been doing some adaptations after the latests changes to melee feats.

Pure Barbarian seems the most survivable due to having more hit points and healing amplification.

Now that TWF line grants some melee power seems worth the investment.
It is the best dps for single target bosses beatdowns like in most of the raids (Defiler of the Just, Mark of death, Fire Peaks, Deathwyrm).

The Frenzy capstone looks superstrong when TWF since the procs happen almost twice as often than THF.

Here is the build hope you like it.

I also recorded a Cabal for One Bruntsmash 8403 DPS test but I'm sure this build can do that beatdown even faster if serious about it.



Human 20 Female Barbarian
18 Str + Level up points
12 Dex
18 Con
8 Int
8 Wis
8 Cha

Feats
Explaining real quick the feat selection:
Weapon focus feats now grant 2 melee power each and do stack together.
This means more damage of course but also more healing because Ravager Blood Strength T5 scales with melee power.
The frenzy capstone is also boosted by melee power.
IC Bludgeon works on Warhammers -> Best weapon for Legendary Dreadnought Barbarian, make sure to select Pulverizer as T6.


1 Power Attack
1 (Human bonus) Cleave
3 Weapon Focus Bludgeoning
6 Weapon Focus Slashing
9 Improved Critical Bludgeoning
12 Two Weapon Fighting
15 Completionist (Quick Draw or Stunning Blow or heavy armor as alternatives)
18 Weapon Focus Piercing
21 Improved Two Weapon Fighting
24 Greater Two Weapon Fighting
26 Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
27 Overwhelming Critical
28 Elusive Target





Update 27 Gear
Shadowscale armor - Speed XV - Profane Doublestrike 3% - Ghostly
Epic Litany of the Dead
Sightless Helm
Deadly Goggles of Accuracy
Pendant of Quiet Movements
Battlerager Harness
Strange Tidings
Encrusted Ring - Healing Amp
Boots of Blessed Travels
Hide of the Fallen Cloak
Bracers of Twisting Shade
Iron Mitts

Weapons
Main Hand: Thunderforged Warhammer: Touch of Flames, Wrath of Flames, Mortal Fear
Off Hand: Thunderforged Warhammer: 1st Degree, Dragon's Edge, Mortal Fear (Draconic Reinvigoration to regenerate boosts)

Is a drop or can it be purchased?

[Therrias]

Is a drop or can it be purchased?

It is part of the "striker" upgrade along with the 3% doublestrike.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Thunder-Forg...ersion_upgrade

[Robbenklopper]

Stinging_Bee, can you please post a Redsonja 4.0 U30 build of yours with actual gear and feats?

[EvilGremlin]

Holy ****! Is this still a viable build? I mean, aside from gear.

[unbongwah]

Holy ****! Is this still a viable build? I mean, aside from gear.

I don't see why not, although Tempests and Kensei might've stolen its DPS thunder. Also the U28 nerf to crit range bonuses mean khopeshes beat warhammers (again); so if you haven't geared up your toon yet, you may wish to consider switching to khops.

[NaturalHazard]

I don't see why not, although Tempests and Kensei might've stolen its DPS thunder. Also the U28 nerf to crit range bonuses mean khopeshes beat warhammers (again); so if you haven't geared up your toon yet, you may wish to consider switching to khops.

Been away for a long time, what are these nerfs? Im sorry I tried looking at the wiki all the pages about the update 28 and i can't see any changes to combate, feats, enhancements and epic destinies. Not that I doubt you I just want to understand what was changed.

[Eth]

Been away for a long time, what are these nerfs? Im sorry I tried looking at the wiki all the pages about the update 28 and i can't see any changes to combate, feats, enhancements and epic destinies. Not that I doubt you I just want to understand what was changed.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Improved_critical

They changed improved critical. Before the change it basically doubled your crit. range after all other modifiers.
Now it only adds specific ranges depending on your weapon type (some unique weapons have special ranges here).

The main point is that with the change IC doesn't work on crit. range increases from enhancements, spells, destinies anymore (holy sword, keen edge, swashbuckling, celestial champion, etc.).

[NaturalHazard]

http://ddowiki.com/page/Improved_critical

They changed improved critical. Before the change it basically doubled your crit. range after all other modifiers.
Now it only adds specific ranges depending on your weapon type (some unique weapons have special ranges here).

The main point is that with the change IC doesn't work on crit. range increases from enhancements, spells, destinies anymore (holy sword, keen edge, swashbuckling, celestial champion, etc.).

Thank you. But I can understand why they did it with all the various things added it must of gotten a bit silly for a while. Some weapons were changed like the SOS and ESOS but I noticed no change to the citw weapons with threat range increases.......... thanks I get it know, for example with pulverizer only and improved crit warhammers would be 17-20 the same as khopeshes now though they would be 18-20? while pesh with just the improved crit feat would still be 17-20. So for example the citw warhammer would be 17-20 but need epic destiny points extra to make it on par with a khopesh just on those grounds of threat range and multi.