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    Default Redsonja 3.0 U25 - TWF Pure Barb

    So I've been doing some adaptations after the latests changes to melee feats.

    Pure Barbarian seems the most survivable due to having more hit points and healing amplification.

    Now that TWF line grants some melee power seems worth the investment.
    It is the best dps for single target bosses beatdowns like in most of the raids (Defiler of the Just, Mark of death, Fire Peaks, Deathwyrm).

    The Frenzy capstone looks superstrong when TWF since the procs happen almost twice as often than THF.

    Here is the build hope you like it.

    I also recorded a Cabal for One Bruntsmash 8403 DPS test but I'm sure this build can do that beatdown even faster if serious about it.



    Human 20 Female Barbarian
    18 Str + Level up points
    12 Dex
    18 Con
    8 Int
    8 Wis
    8 Cha

    Feats
    Explaining real quick the feat selection:
    Weapon focus feats now grant 2 melee power each and do stack together.
    This means more damage of course but also more healing because Ravager Blood Strength T5 scales with melee power.
    The frenzy capstone is also boosted by melee power.
    IC Bludgeon works on Warhammers -> Best weapon for Legendary Dreadnought Barbarian, make sure to select Pulverizer as T6.


    1 Power Attack
    1 (Human bonus) Cleave
    3 Weapon Focus Bludgeoning
    6 Weapon Focus Slashing
    9 Improved Critical Bludgeoning
    12 Two Weapon Fighting
    15 Completionist (Quick Draw or Stunning Blow or heavy armor as alternatives)
    18 Weapon Focus Piercing
    21 Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    24 Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    26 Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    27 Overwhelming Critical
    28 Elusive Target





    Update 27 Gear
    Shadowscale armor - Speed XV - Profane Doublestrike 3% - Ghostly
    Epic Litany of the Dead
    Sightless Helm
    Deadly Goggles of Accuracy
    Pendant of Quiet Movements
    Battlerager Harness
    Strange Tidings
    Encrusted Ring - Healing Amp
    Boots of Blessed Travels
    Hide of the Fallen Cloak
    Bracers of Twisting Shade
    Iron Mitts

    Weapons
    Main Hand: Thunderforged Warhammer: Touch of Flames, Wrath of Flames, Mortal Fear
    Off Hand: Thunderforged Warhammer: 1st Degree, Dragon's Edge, Mortal Fear (Draconic Reinvigoration to regenerate boosts)
    Last edited by Stinging_Bee; 08-06-2015 at 05:04 PM.
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    No ITWF and GTWF in heroics? How do you hit with off hand until epics?

    Nice build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doutrinador View Post
    No ITWF and GTWF in heroics? How do you hit with off hand until epics?

    Nice build.
    For heroics just use a Greataxe (carnifex for lvl 4-12, Gs MinII 12-20)
    Need to wait for +5 dex tome to kick in at level 19 before you can take ITWF and GTWF.
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    If for mark speed run, isnt it better to drop patack and cleave for precision and completionist?
    Overall a really nice build, didnt know focus feats stacked tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackheartox View Post
    If for mark speed run, isnt it better to drop patack and cleave for precision and completionist?
    Overall a really nice build, didnt know focus feats stacked tho
    You can't use rage when in Precision stance. I really doubt that would be more DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eth View Post
    You can't use rage when in Precision stance. I really doubt that would be more DPS.
    Right, dumb me, then only cleave for completionist, tho i dont know if momentum is worth it on 2 weapon fight, seems like it slows down att animation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stinging_Bee View Post
    Madstone Boots - 20% attack speed woot!!
    I had not realized this had been fixed. Awesome.

    Question - how does this work with 15% melee alacrity/haste spell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stinging_Bee View Post
    So I've been doing some adaptations after the latests changes to melee feats.

    Pure Barbarian seems the most survivable due to having more hit points and healing amplification.

    Now that TWF line grants some melee power seems worth the investment.
    It is the best dps for single target bosses beatdowns like in most of the raids (Mark of death, Fire Peaks, Deathwyrm).

    The Frenzy capstone looks superstrong when TWF since the procs happen almost twice as often than THF.

    Here is the build hope you like it.

    I also recorded a Cabal for One Bruntsmash 8403 DPS test but I'm sure this build can do that beatdown even faster if serious about it.



    Human 20 Female Barbarian
    18 Str + Level up points
    12 Dex
    18 Con
    8 Int
    8 Wis
    8 Cha

    Feats
    Explaining real quick the feat selection:
    Weapon focus feats now grant 2 melee power each and do stack together.
    This means more damage of course but also more healing because Ravager Blood Strength T5 scales with melee power.
    The frenzy capstone is also boosted by melee power.
    IC Bludgeon works on Warhammers -> Best weapon for Legendary Dreadnought Barbarian, make sure to select Pulverizer as T6.
    IC Piercing works on Celestia -> Best weapon against Mark of Death Deathknights since it can bypass their PRR.
    For Mod speedruns I recommend legendary dreadnought using 2 hammers on the Abbot, switch to 1 celestia in main hand and 1 warhammer in off hand (dragons edge) for Deathknights phases.

    1 Power Attack
    1 (Human bonus) Cleave
    3 Weapon Focus Bludgeoning
    6 Weapon Focus Slashing
    9 Improved Critical Bludgeoning
    12 Two Weapon Fighting
    15 Improved Critical Piercing (Can drop this one for completionist if you have it)
    18 Weapon Focus Piercing
    21 Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    24 Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    26 Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    27 Overwhelming Critical
    28 Elusive Target



    For Temple of Elemental Evil drop core 5 from ravager and 1 point of Cruel Cut and select knockdown immunity so you can survive the Earthquakes

    Gear
    ToEE Armor - 12 Resistance, Lesser displacement, Fortification 150%, 20 melee power set bonus
    Epic Litany of the Dead
    Shroud of the Ardent
    Sanctified Gages
    Mythic Emerald Gaze
    Epic Ethereal Bracers
    Mentau Goggles
    Mysterious Cloak
    Seal of House Avithoul - Improved Deception OP
    Encrusted Ring - Healing amplification
    Knost Belt
    Madstone Boots
    Epic Quiver of Alacrity

    Weapons
    Main Hand: TF Warhammer: 1st Degree, Dragon's Edge, Mortal Fear (Draconic Reinvigoration)
    Off Hand: ToEE Warhammer: Fire or Acid
    I went into Cabal yesterday to test DPS on my sorc and noticed something very important, his HP are incredibly unreliable, I did a few instances to put this theory to the test and found him at 110k at the lowest and 155k at the highest. Might be time to find a more reliable training dummy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodskittle View Post
    I went into Cabal yesterday to test DPS on my sorc and noticed something very important, his HP are incredibly unreliable, I did a few instances to put this theory to the test and found him at 110k at the lowest and 155k at the highest. Might be time to find a more reliable training dummy.
    That being said Hobgoblin hunter isn't hard to get, so if you can see his hp and do some quick maths DPS is still easily tested here.
    Viamel ~ Lava Divers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodskittle View Post
    I went into Cabal yesterday to test DPS on my sorc and noticed something very important, his HP are incredibly unreliable, I did a few instances to put this theory to the test and found him at 110k at the lowest and 155k at the highest. Might be time to find a more reliable training dummy.
    That is why we record his HP when we do the dps tests.

    You can unlock Hobgoblin in your Monster Manual and see his HP.. then it is as simple as dividing his HP by the number of seconds it took.

    While I agree we can use a better training dummy (one with a million HP or more) as then we would get a slightly better look at true averages. Bruntsmash is all we have that is reliable atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andoris View Post
    That is why we record his HP when we do the dps tests.

    You can unlock Hobgoblin in your Monster Manual and see his HP.. then it is as simple as dividing his HP by the number of seconds it took.

    While I agree we can use a better training dummy (one with a million HP or more) as then we would get a slightly better look at true averages. Bruntsmash is all we have that is reliable atm.
    However we can't see the HP in Xylah's video therefore making her 8400 DPS unreliable. (Though probably still close to the truth)
    Its worth killing Gardak 5-6 times to develop a proper average to see how much of a difference a +1 damage bonus is really making outside of the theory craft for example.
    Viamel ~ Lava Divers

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    On ToEE equip...
    Looking at the crafting bench I noticed you can upgrade the armor and the weapon each with up to 4 MP/RP. Anyone knows if these stack with each other?

    ...and where do you get the big mushrooms? End chest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eth View Post
    On ToEE equip...
    Looking at the crafting bench I noticed you can upgrade the armor and the weapon each with up to 4 MP/RP. Anyone knows if these stack with each other?

    ...and where do you get the big mushrooms? End chest?
    Its not confirmed if they stack but they are labelled differently one is "Mythic wepon" and one is "Mythic armor" so it stands to reason that they stack.

    The big Mushrooms as far as I know can come from any chest in part 2, They could come from part 1 but I've so far only seen them from pt2
    Viamel ~ Lava Divers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stinging_Bee View Post
    So I've been doing some adaptations after the latests changes to melee feats.

    Pure Barbarian seems the most survivable due to having more hit points and healing amplification.

    Now that TWF line grants some melee power seems worth the investment.
    It is the best dps for single target bosses beatdowns like in most of the raids (Defiler of the Just, Mark of death, Fire Peaks, Deathwyrm).

    The Frenzy capstone looks superstrong when TWF since the procs happen almost twice as often than THF.

    Here is the build hope you like it.

    I also recorded a Cabal for One Bruntsmash 8403 DPS test but I'm sure this build can do that beatdown even faster if serious about it.



    Human 20 Female Barbarian
    18 Str + Level up points
    12 Dex
    18 Con
    8 Int
    8 Wis
    8 Cha

    Feats
    Explaining real quick the feat selection:
    Weapon focus feats now grant 2 melee power each and do stack together.
    This means more damage of course but also more healing because Ravager Blood Strength T5 scales with melee power.
    The frenzy capstone is also boosted by melee power.
    IC Bludgeon works on Warhammers -> Best weapon for Legendary Dreadnought Barbarian, make sure to select Pulverizer as T6.


    1 Power Attack
    1 (Human bonus) Cleave
    3 Weapon Focus Bludgeoning
    6 Weapon Focus Slashing
    9 Improved Critical Bludgeoning
    12 Two Weapon Fighting
    15 Completionist (Quick Draw or Stunning Blow or heavy armor as alternatives)
    18 Weapon Focus Piercing
    21 Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    24 Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    26 Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    27 Overwhelming Critical
    28 Elusive Target





    Update 27 Gear
    Shadowscale armor - Speed XV - Profane Doublestrike 3% - Ghostly
    Epic Litany of the Dead
    Sightless Helm
    Deadly Goggles of Accuracy
    Pendant of Quiet Movements
    Battlerager Harness
    Strange Tidings
    Encrusted Ring - Healing Amp
    Boots of Blessed Travels
    Hide of the Fallen Cloak
    Bracers of Twisting Shade
    Iron Mitts

    Weapons
    Main Hand: Thunderforged Warhammer: Touch of Flames, Wrath of Flames, Mortal Fear
    Off Hand: Thunderforged Warhammer: 1st Degree, Dragon's Edge, Mortal Fear (Draconic Reinvigoration to regenerate boosts)
    Is a drop or can it be purchased?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spellonzo View Post
    Is a drop or can it be purchased?
    It is part of the "striker" upgrade along with the 3% doublestrike.

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Thunder-Forg...ersion_upgrade

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