Temporary Quest Closure: The Crucible

[Cordovan]

The quest The Crucible has been temporarily closed while we address a bug. We'll be reopening the quest as soon as we are able.

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#rekt

[AlcoArgo]

The quest The Crucible has been temporarily closed while we address a bug. We'll be reopening the quest as soon as we are able.

I am assuming the fix is to increase the base XP?

[Feralthyrtiaq]

just....omg

[slarden]

I certainly don't have a problem with this.

The only point I'll make is that Turbine knew that people were using macros/bots to get full etr lifes with crucible optionals since April 2014 and you took nearly a year to fix the issue. Now that people can get a little extra experience legitimately by running the quest you shut down the quest completely the day you find out it about it.

It just seems the internal crisis alert system at Turbine is not working properly. I don't mean that as a criticism - that is just my honest feedback.

[Rhysem]

I certainly don't have a problem with this.

The only point I'll make is that Turbine knew that people were using macros/bots to get full etr lifes with crucible optionals since April 2014 and you took nearly a year to fix the issue. Now that people can get a little extra experience legitimately by running the quest you shut down the quest completely the day you find out it about it.

It just seems the internal crisis alert system at Turbine is not working properly. I don't mean that as a criticism - that is just my honest feedback.

+1.

Even boosted from numbers I saw the xp isn't so crazy as to shut down a quest over. I've found quests that I duo with a friend without +50% pots where we turn out fairly similar xp/min numbers as what I was seeing for crucible -- and no I don't mean Impossible Demands, though that also qualifies.

Guess it just goes to show the good old "exploit early, exploit often" motto from Asheron's lives on.

[mudfud]

So I guess Wheloon Mirror quest and Storm Horns What goes up is getting closed next? I'm just asking because 10 min EE mirror for 500k and 30 min What goes up 500k is too much xp to give us.

[arkonas]

So I guess Wheloon Mirror quest and Storm Horns What goes up is getting closed next? I'm just asking because 10 min EE mirror for 500k and 30 min What goes up 500k is too much xp to give us.

i think you're missing the point. crucible was NOT suppose to have that huge of a boost to its xp.

[Hendrik]

i certainly don't have a problem with this.

the only point i'll make is that turbine knew that people were using macros/bots to get full etr lifes with crucible optionals since april 2014 and you took nearly a year to fix the issue. Now that people can get a little extra experience legitimately by running the quest you shut down the quest completely the day you find out it about it.

it just seems the internal crisis alert system at turbine is not working properly. I don't mean that as a criticism - that is just my honest feedback.

qft!

Why wasn't this closed down a year ago and fixed?

[Gleep_Wurp]

The quest The Crucible has been temporarily closed while we address a bug. We'll be reopening the quest as soon as we are able.

you going to update the launcher or did you forget?

[Deadlock]

Jerry, this has to be a temporary closure in the nature of "less than 7 days" rather than the debacle we had previously with the "temporary closure" of the Tomb of the Tormented.

Some clowns (and I can give you names on Ghallanda if you need them ) have been bot-exploiting this for so long that reverting back to the previous "unfixed" version of this for a couple of weeks is not a game changer.

Right now, the non-bot-exploiting majority are being penalised for no damned good reason.

[Hendrik]

Jerry, this has to be a temporary closure in the nature of "less than 7 days" rather than the debacle we had previously with the "temporary closure" of the Tomb of the Tormented.

Some clowns (and I can give you names on Ghallanda if you need them ) have been bot-exploiting this for so long that reverting back to the previous "unfixed" version of this for a couple of weeks is not a game changer.

Right now, the non-bot-exploiting majority are being penalised for no damned good reason.

Exploiting does not hurt anyone.

[mudfud]

LOL Half the people complaining because it's closed are those same people who said it was too hard to find groups for because it was so hard and wanted it nerfed from being a Flagging required quest.
Make up your minds about how you feel about Crucible.

[Erofen]

Exploiting does not hurt anyone.

No, just no. Macros are perfectly fine as long as you are at the keyboard. It is a different story when people leave it up while they sleep, but when you are at the keyboard it is perfectly legit. People calling anything that could save time/remove monotony exploits really annoys me. Just because someone found a more efficient way does not make it cheating.

[Braegan]

This makes me sad. Crucible is one of my favorite quests and I run it often. Considering the game mechanics this quest should be worth a lot of xp. Perhaps not as much as what is was getting, but it certainly warrants more xp than many other quests that are more favorable to run speaking in a time sense. Please bring it back soon!

[gabbatastic]

The quest The Crucible has been temporarily closed while we address a bug. We'll be reopening the quest as soon as we are able.

Yes, last night I had a glimmer of hope for a few short hours that there was another quest to bring down the tedious, mind numbing, grind down just a little bit.. 700k 1st time EE (with pot) was nice. Not insane, nice. What really needs to be considered here is when the game gets to be too much of a grind. People start doing other thing with their time and lose interest. With 80 degree days just around the corner, going hiking or paddling down the river sure sounds more attractive than doing the same slow xp grind for the 1000th time. Keep this in mind next time you rush to shut down something good like Crucible was last night...

[blerkington]

Jerry, this has to be a temporary closure in the nature of "less than 7 days" rather than the debacle we had previously with the "temporary closure" of the Tomb of the Tormented.

Some clowns (and I can give you names on Ghallanda if you need them ) have been bot-exploiting this for so long that reverting back to the previous "unfixed" version of this for a couple of weeks is not a game changer.

Right now, the non-bot-exploiting majority are being penalised for no damned good reason.

Hi,

Well, this is a very nice offer.

I hope that you are able to provide some evidence if you start making these accusations, or are you hoping that your good name is enough to get these people into trouble, Salem-style?

This thread might be a good place for someone from Turbine to clarify under what circumstances, if any, the use of macros is allowed. Before the community goes all fire and pitchforks about this issue.

And for the record, no, I didn't farm xp from the optionals, with either a macro or by hand.

Thanks.

[Chi_Ryu]

This thread might be a good place for someone from Turbine to clarify under what circumstances, if any, the use of macros is allowed. Before the community goes all fire and pitchforks about this issue.

It has previously been stated that macros are ok if and only if you are in front of the keyboard and in "control" at all times. One reference is here.

Macroing easy optionals and going to bed is a no-no. And, to be honest, any XP that can be farmed when a player has been replaced by a very small shell script is worthless XP.

[blerkington]

It has previously been stated that macros are ok if and only if you are in front of the keyboard and in "control" at all times. One reference is here.

Macroing easy optionals and going to bed is a no-no. And, to be honest, any XP that can be farmed when a player has been replaced by a very small shell script is worthless XP.

Hi,

That's somewhat useful, thanks. Without going all bush lawyer, I wonder what specifically is meant by being 'in control'. The reply is somewhat vague, and does not seem to forbid macros entirely.

Perhaps they don't really want people using them at all, but are leery of running afoul of anti-discrimination laws which support the rights of disabled people. So some 'wiggle room' is being left in the wording.

The other problem is establishing whether someone has gone to bed, or they're watching a movie at their computer while keeping an eye on their macros running. I don't see a big difference between the two.

I still think it would be a good time to clarify what is and isn't allowed, this time in more detail. Though this is likely to be complicated, and require a good knowledge of what people can do with scripts and some legal input too.

Thanks.

[Gizeh]

It would be nice if the Crucible could at least be skipped for free for the purpose of Gianthold saga completions until we can run the quest again.