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    I haven't played DDO for a while, but want to play a warlock and so occasionally check for warlock updates. Hence, I of course had to click on this Dev Tracker link - thanks for keeping up hope that it is coming soon

    In case anyone else, like me, is interested in forensically analysing any possible warlock information, I thought I would post my analysis of Vargouille's screenshot.

    Alignment: Neutral Evil
    Traditionally, Warlock can be any chaotic or any evil, so this looks good! Of course it would also be consistent with almost any class, with the exceptions of Monk and Paladin.

    Saving throws:
    Fortitude: +3 = +0 (Low) + 3 (CON) => Low
    Reflex: -1 = +0 (Low) - 1 (DEX) => Low
    Will: +1 = +2 (High) - 1 (WIS) => High
    So saving throws are consistent with what Warlock traditionally has; but also with Artificer, Sorcerer, and Wizard.

    Hit points:
    HP: 37 = 30 (Heroic Durability) + 4 (Hit die) + 3 (CON) => d4 hit die
    Traditionally, Warlock would have d6 hit die, so this is unfortunate. However, a d4 hit die is consistent with Wizard and Sorcerer.

    Spell points:
    This is the most problematic, as traditionally, Warlock would not have any spell points, as it doesn't cast spells at all, but rather has unlimited use of invocations. However, we can still check if the screenshot is of an existing class:
    SP(Artificer/Wizard): 80 (Magical Training) + 50 (Artificer/Wizard) - 10 (INT) = 120
    SP(Bard): 50 (Bard) + 40 (CHA) = 90
    SP(Cleric/Druid): 80 (Magical Training) + 50 (Cleric/Druid) - 10 (WIS) = 120
    SP(Fav. Soul/Sorcerer): 80 (Magical Training) + 100 (Fav. Soul/Sorcerer) + 40 (CHA) = 220
    The SP in the screenshot is 120. So although not consistent with a traditional Warlock, this is consistent with an Artificer, Wizard, Cleric, and Druid.

    Ki: 0
    A Warlock is not a monk; but then again, neither is any class besides monk.

    If we combine all of the above, the only class consistent with the Alignment, Saving Throws, Hit Points, Spell Points, and Ki in the screenshot is a Wizard. Thus my conclusion is that Vargouille photoshopped the character sheet of a level 1 Wizard. Looking again, that 'W' in Warlock does look a little suspicious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoham View Post
    I haven't played DDO for a while, but want to play a warlock and so occasionally check for warlock updates. Hence, I of course had to click on this Dev Tracker link - thanks for keeping up hope that it is coming soon

    In case anyone else, like me, is interested in forensically analysing any possible warlock information, I thought I would post my analysis of Vargouille's screenshot.

    Alignment: Neutral Evil
    Traditionally, Warlock can be any chaotic or any evil, so this looks good! Of course it would also be consistent with almost any class, with the exceptions of Monk and Paladin.

    Saving throws:
    Fortitude: +3 = +0 (Low) + 3 (CON) => Low
    Reflex: -1 = +0 (Low) - 1 (DEX) => Low
    Will: +1 = +2 (High) - 1 (WIS) => High
    So saving throws are consistent with what Warlock traditionally has; but also with Artificer, Sorcerer, and Wizard.

    Hit points:
    HP: 37 = 30 (Heroic Durability) + 4 (Hit die) + 3 (CON) => d4 hit die
    Traditionally, Warlock would have d6 hit die, so this is unfortunate. However, a d4 hit die is consistent with Wizard and Sorcerer.

    Spell points:
    This is the most problematic, as traditionally, Warlock would not have any spell points, as it doesn't cast spells at all, but rather has unlimited use of invocations. However, we can still check if the screenshot is of an existing class:
    SP(Artificer/Wizard): 80 (Magical Training) + 50 (Artificer/Wizard) - 10 (INT) = 120
    SP(Bard): 50 (Bard) + 40 (CHA) = 90
    SP(Cleric/Druid): 80 (Magical Training) + 50 (Cleric/Druid) - 10 (WIS) = 120
    SP(Fav. Soul/Sorcerer): 80 (Magical Training) + 100 (Fav. Soul/Sorcerer) + 40 (CHA) = 220
    The SP in the screenshot is 120. So although not consistent with a traditional Warlock, this is consistent with an Artificer, Wizard, Cleric, and Druid.

    Ki: 0
    A Warlock is not a monk; but then again, neither is any class besides monk.

    If we combine all of the above, the only class consistent with the Alignment, Saving Throws, Hit Points, Spell Points, and Ki in the screenshot is a Wizard. Thus my conclusion is that Vargouille photoshopped the character sheet of a level 1 Wizard. Looking again, that 'W' in Warlock does look a little suspicious!
    If you look closely, that "W" seem to be bluffy.

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    So for the record, that tree is a joke... right...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxcore View Post
    So for the record, that tree is a joke... right...?
    The date of the original post will answer that question for you.
    DC Warlock Reaper Build (U48)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxcore View Post
    So for the record, that tree is a joke... right...?
    Quote Originally Posted by slarden View Post
    The date of the original post will answer that question for you.
    What Slarden MEANT to say was "Yes, it was an April Fools day joke"
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    Yes!Now I can go for Dwarf/WF in this class! I was afraid the Cha penalty would hold me back, but this tree will see to it that I make the perfect build.

    A few thoughts:
    -Change the third core to grant +30 HP rather than 25.
    -Change the Capstone to provide +4 Con
    -Add a stance similar to the stance sacred defenders have, providing +hp% and plus con when wearing light armour.


    And finally, can we get a preview on the Warlock trees?
    The world was never born. It was destroyed.

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