Mysterious Remnants are ridiculously rare, and the rewards are astronomically overpri

[Navox]

Mysterious Remnants are ridiculously rare, and the rewards are astronomically overpriced. It should not take 100+ hours of farming to get 10000 mysterious remnants...but what else can be expected when the devs know nothing about playing DDO.

[kmankowski]

I would probably be classified as a casual player (around 15 - 20 hours on a good week). I have over 5,000 remnants already. I didn't think that was too bad.

[Sarzor]

I would probably be classified as a casual player (around 15 - 20 hours on a good week). I have over 5,000 remnants already. I didn't think that was too bad.

Not sure 20 hours a week is a casual player.

[Nestroy]

Mysterious Remnants are ridiculously rare, and the rewards are astronomically overpriced. It should not take 100+ hours of farming to get 10000 mysterious remnants...but what else can be expected when the devs know nothing about playing DDO.

Since they are basically for free and can be farmed nearly on the run, why bothering. What me annoys more is the fact that some braindead managed to farm out these 10k remnants in one weekend. Or shall I suggest they did not farm that much but used more sinister ways to obtain them?

By the way, I managed to farm a total of some 4k so far by doing quests. I am still vocal to have them drop even if toon level is 1-2 levels above quest level. Especially on EE, but I would not mind seeing them more on HE too.

[AbyssalMage]

Since they are basically for free and can be farmed nearly on the run, why bothering. What me annoys more is the fact that some braindead managed to farm out these 10k remnants in one weekend. Or shall I suggest they did not farm that much but used more sinister ways to obtain them?

By the way, I managed to farm a total of some 4k so far by doing quests. I am still vocal to have them drop even if toon level is 1-2 levels above quest level. Especially on EE, but I would not mind seeing them more on HE too.

Unless you are farming EE HH Zombies (or whatever the area is called) you really don't have a chance of getting to 10k easily. They should have recognized this from their last promotional weekend. The people who matter aren't reading the forums and the few developers who do interact with the community have low influence on the fiasco of Champion rewards, imho.

[kmankowski]

Not sure 20 hours a week is a casual player.

That's why I included 'on a good week'. But it's all relative.

[Navox]

One heroic life and seven epic lives netted me a total of 3400, with one stab at EE HH zombies. I guess that's the only way to get remnants without going insane...but it's still possible...

[Nestroy]

Unless you are farming EE HH Zombies (or whatever the area is called) you really don't have a chance of getting to 10k easily. They should have recognized this from their last promotional weekend. The people who matter aren't reading the forums and the few developers who do interact with the community have low influence on the fiasco of Champion rewards, imho.

I ran EE HH too. Even EH HH is good to farm remnants. Lv. 29 meaning you get plenty of chests and remnants droping on a capped toon, and the mobs are much easier to beat down (remnants / minute better, imho). But I am not in for farming remnants at all. I am in for either the TR train or looking for some rare loot. Remnants should remain something peripherical.

The more I am sad at Turbine cutting off remnants on quest levels, not on modified CRs. We have plenty of lv. 21 epic stuff that only evolves into lv. 23 EE quests not droping a single remnant on a lv. 24+ toon. Including the first two VONs (Jungle of Khyber and Haywire are lv. 22 = lv. 24 EE). And we all know how fast lv. 24 is reached, even when banking. Or lv. 25, at that. So this really is annoying.

[Chi_Ryu]

Unless you are farming EE HH Zombies (or whatever the area is called) you really don't have a chance of getting to 10k easily.

Whilst getting rems is hard at Epic, due to the usual 20-28 level span, I personally got 5,000 from a single Heroic 1-20 TR, doing a one-and-done of each quest with Elite streak, with no farming.

So, if I had chosen to TR from level 1 again instead of doing 2 iconic lives, I'd have been over 10k now from normal play (I'm at 7k).

[Algreg]

well, I don´t mind the numbers that much - actually, being at work, I have absolutely no idea how much of them I have acquired. And I am usually not concerned with casual complaints that much. BUT: is it really necessary to offer them for a very limited time? I mean, I am aware of the scarcity theory in sales, but Turbine is not even gaining money here from this. If the numbers really have to be that high, it just seems weird not to have those traders in game permanently.

[Impaqt]

2 1/2 lives on my current toon since remnants were introduced. Just rolled over 1k and I run bravery bonus through Heroic.
S
o dumb when a system has to be "Balanced" to account for people farmng these things in unintended ways.

[hit_fido]

Mysterious Remnants are ridiculously rare, and the rewards are astronomically overpriced. It should not take 100+ hours of farming to get 10000 mysterious remnants...but what else can be expected when the devs know nothing about playing DDO.

On the other hand, cloaks and bracers are only 1000/4000/8000 and you can upgrade from one tier to the next for the same difference. Also, BTA, so more value for the effort.

You can choose to grind or not grind and still get there eventually just playing hard/elite at level.

To me, that's a reasonable system. Although I wont complain if they mix in more "double remnant" weekends and such.

[LittleLexi]

I've been playing fairly regularly since remnants were first introduced and I've only been able to amass 1600 remnants in total across the 4 characters that I play. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.

I did manage to get the cool lvl 7 bracers with a whopping 1000 remnants for my "main" character. But I have no hope of getting anything better, or anything that requires 10k remnants - considering how long it took to gather these few remnants I do have.

I should say that I've just played as I normally would, and haven't specifically set out to farm remnants at any point in time since they were introduced. Is that the expectation? I also take care to always pick them up from the ground or from chests.

Again - it may be that I'm doing something wrong. But I don't think I'm the only one that's a tad aggrieved by the inability to really participate in such events.

[Qhualor]

the remnants are not rare, but I do think they drop more in heroics than epics if doing it at level range. as the rewards seem to get better, im still hoping that it will be another incentive to run quests at level rather than running quests with 20-28. right now I think the rewards are overpriced. if I pool all my remnants together from all my characters I doubt I would have more than 5k. eventually players should be building them up. this topic mirrors the discussion about CoVs when they were first introduced.

[arkonas]

Mysterious Remnants are ridiculously rare, and the rewards are astronomically overpriced. It should not take 100+ hours of farming to get 10000 mysterious remnants...but what else can be expected when the devs know nothing about playing DDO.

boo hoo. no they're not that rare. maybe if you would play in the levels like they said to you would have some. since it was introduced without farming i have 8k not including what is on other toons atm. as for the hours of farming yes it should take that long. this was meant to be free and an alt form of grinding for rewards. you want something grind it out. don't want to don't complain. sorry im not with you.

[arkonas]

I've been playing fairly regularly since remnants were first introduced and I've only been able to amass 1600 remnants in total across the 4 characters that I play. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.

I did manage to get the cool lvl 7 bracers with a whopping 1000 remnants for my "main" character. But I have no hope of getting anything better, or anything that requires 10k remnants - considering how long it took to gather these few remnants I do have.

I should say that I've just played as I normally would, and haven't specifically set out to farm remnants at any point in time since they were introduced. Is that the expectation? I also take care to always pick them up from the ground or from chests.

Again - it may be that I'm doing something wrong. But I don't think I'm the only one that's a tad aggrieved by the inability to really participate in such events.

are you mainly doing epics or are you also doing heroics with other toons/tr lives? do you run within the 2 levels of the quest? are you running hard/elite? that is why some people might not get as many. epics seem to drop fewer then heroic and also most forget they're higher then the quest as well so they tend not to see as much too.

[Sunnie]

So far this life I've got some 2800 remnants at level 13. That's in addition to the ones in my TR cache.

Drop rate seems ok-ish to me.

[ddorimble]

On the other hand, cloaks and bracers are only 1000/4000/8000 and you can upgrade from one tier to the next for the same difference. Also, BTA, so more value for the effort.

I wonder how that's supposed to work long term. If I buy the 1000 remnant one...at what point will I have the opportunity to upgrade it again? Each time they have a 'rare items' offer, are they going to bring back the previous items too so I can upgrade one I got before? Or do I have to wait a year because the next rare item offers don't include the one I bought before? Maybe they should leave it so that base items are temporary (if they want them temporary for some reason, I honestly don't know why they do) and leave upgrades always available.

[Navox]

Mind you, that 3400 remnants over one heroic life and seven epic pastlives was doing elite/epic elite bravery bonus...

[Livmo]

Haunted Halls is not the easy street to remenants.

You have to fight and kill baddies to get the chests.

EH only averages 2 rems per chest. Of course, sometimes a chest will have a big bump in rems, but that is not the norm each pull. You will go insane if you try to farm rems in HH on EH and it will take along time.

If you want to get a better average of 9-10 rems per chest run it on EE. I've been doing 3x runs nightly on EE HH since mimic fest introduced and my take so far grand total is 9554 as of last night. I may have missed an evening or 2 along the way due to work. This is not a fast track to rems either. However, if you fold it into your nightly XP routine, then after some time you will build up a stack like I did. It took one month to get 9554 by doing 3x runs nightly more or less farming HH on EE.

Prior to mimics folks could use a nefarious way to dupe. People were NOT getting 10k rems from farming HH in one weekend. You have champ ghosts and spiders to fight. Not a walk in the park solo. The basic non-champ EE ghosts are CR 70.