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  1. #1
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    Default Looking to do a Ninja Monk next life any suggestions..?

    Here is what I was playing with...I do have a plus 6 supreme tome on him.
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    Level 28 Lawful Good Shadar-Kai Male
    (14 Monk \ 6 Rogue \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 380
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 14\14\19\24
    Fortitude: 18
    Reflex: 19
    Will: 20
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength             16                    23
    Dexterity            14                    21
    Constitution         14                    19
    Intelligence         14                    19
    Wisdom               14                    28
    Charisma              6                    11
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15
    +5 Tome of Strength used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Charisma used at level 19
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
    Balance               6                    21
    Bluff                -2                     8
    Concentration         4                    35
    Diplomacy            -2                     8
    Disable Device        6                    35
    Haggle               -2                     8
    Heal                  4                    23
    Hide                  2                    15
    Intimidate           -2                    11
    Jump                  7                    23
    Listen                2                    17
    Move Silently         2                    15
    Open Lock             6                    36
    Perform              n/a                    n/a
    Repair                2                    12
    Search                6                    35
    Spellcraft            2                    12
    Spot                  6                    40
    Swim                  3                    14
    Tumble                6                    21
    Use Magic Device      2                    31
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 2 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 3 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
    
    
    Level 4 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
    
    
    Level 5 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
    
    
    Level 6 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Mobility
    
    
    Level 7 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 8 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 9 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
    
    
    Level 10 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 11 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 12 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 14 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    
    
    Level 16 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 17 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 18 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Grandmaster of Forms
    
    
    Level 19 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Improved Martial Arts
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Holy Strike
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Knife in the Darkness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Stealthy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Stealthy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Damage Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Damage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Damage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Damage (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Shadow Veil (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Wave of Despair (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Poison Exploit (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Subtlety (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Subtlety (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Subtlety (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Protection from Tainted Creatures (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Hand (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Argent Fist (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Exemplar (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Exemplar (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Exemplar (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Fists of Iron (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Instinctive Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Violence Begets Violence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Empty Hand Mastery (Rank 1)

  2. #2

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    It would work but it does not really take advantage of the weaponization of ninja tree--sting works only on weapons, not wraps, and has great synergy with venomed blades.
    A pure drow ninja can max dex to a high number and use the drow tree's venomed blades with sting aling with the synergy with the capstone's buff to shortswords. If you add IC slashing, the brush hooks offer 13-20/2 plus vorpal for rapid incrementation of sting.

    If you mix rogue, check out build in my sig for a nice synergy. You can modify it to suit your playstyle.
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    I was focusing primarily on the stunning fist so I would have to drop that then. I also want improved martial arts. So maybe 12 monk, 6 rogue, 2 Fighter?

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    OK how about this? I changed from Dark to Light as I believe the DCs would be too low on the finishers.
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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02
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    Level 28 Lawful Good Shadar-Kai Male
    (2 Fighter \ 12 Monk \ 6 Rogue \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 356
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 19
    Reflex: 20
    Will: 18
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength             16                    23
    Dexterity            13                    18
    Constitution         12                    17
    Intelligence         17                    24
    Wisdom               14                    26
    Charisma              6                    11
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15
    +5 Tome of Strength used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Charisma used at level 19
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
    Balance               5                    22
    Bluff                -2                     8
    Concentration         3                    37
    Diplomacy            -2                     8
    Disable Device        7                    41
    Haggle                0                    10
    Heal                  3                    17
    Hide                  1                    12
    Intimidate           -2                     8
    Jump                  7                    36
    Listen                2                    19
    Move Silently         5                    16
    Open Lock             5                    38
    Perform              n/a                    n/a
    Repair                3                    18
    Search                7                    41
    Spellcraft            3                    15
    Spot                  6                    42
    Swim                  3                    14
    Tumble                5                    19
    Use Magic Device      2                    34
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    
    
    Level 2 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
    
    
    Level 3 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 4 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
    
    
    Level 5 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 6 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    
    
    Level 7 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Mobility
    
    
    Level 8 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 9 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
    
    
    Level 10 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 11 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 12 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 14 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 17 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 18 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Grandmaster of Forms
    
    
    Level 19 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Improved Martial Arts
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Vorpal Strikes
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Holy Strike
    Enhancement: Shadar-Kai - Shadar-Kai Grit (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shadar-Kai - Shadar-Kai Intelligence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Arbalester (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Mechanics (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Mechanics (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Mechanics (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Awareness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Awareness (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Awareness (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Skill Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Skill Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Skill Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Use Magical Device (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Use Magical Device (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Use Magical Device (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Mechanic (Rog) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Protection from Tainted Creatures (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Hand (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Argent Fist (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Difficulty at the Beginning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Lifting the Veil (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Restoring the Balance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - The Receptive Earth (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Rise of the Phoenix (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Meditation of War (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Empty Hand Mastery (Rank 1)

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    Hi--I see you do not have GTWF--can you rework it to have it by level 15? Mobility is not needed and insightful reflexes is used only by INT builds.
    IC: bludgeon--am on iphone but was that in there?
    A nice option is to go the whirlwind route since it works well with wraps. In this case you would keep mobility but swap out the PA cleave line for combat expertise-->whirlwind.
    In the end though you are not making a stealthy ninja either way--this will be a shintao in earth stance.
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    Oops it was getting late. At first I was going to go harper tree but changed my mind. That is why I took insightful reflex. But yeah the whole premise at first was to get the SA from Ninja tree to amplify the damage from the stun really. I was thinking of adding in Improved deception as an added effect from Harper initially.

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