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    Quote Originally Posted by nokowi View Post
    You can watch my video and see me use the bottle of rum for emergencies. Yes I am aware of the timer. You can search all day for things I don't know about healing, but you are wasting your efforts here. I do have a hard time believing a 6 year veteran has any trouble with resources, but if your opinion is that resource constraints limit your healing options, your are welcome to it. I don't use pot healing, diplomacy, or most of the methods I suggest as options. For me, it's as simple as agro control, cocoon, an occasional rum, and scroll heals (solo mostly). Scrolls are easily replaced, so resources play no role in my healing needs. Yes, I could stand in one spot if scroll heals were quickened. I absolutely hate the play style of LD, so your experiences may differ. They do not invalidate mine.

    As a player that currently scroll heals in EE content, I am in a good position to say that quickened scroll heals would reduce the quality of play in this game for me. I would be upset if this were implemented when I know players have options that they are not currently using. (Are you using poison to reduce MP of mobs?) If I can get by without diplomacy, daunting roar, healing pots, threat reduction, escape notice, or meld into darkness (you can choose to twist these), I would imagine an experienced vet such as yourself could do better than me using these additional tools. Agro control trumps all of these.

    A simple change in your approach to combat can cut your agro dramatically, regardless of your current play style. I believe trash mobs switch agro every few (6?) seconds. If they start with agro on someone else, you have the DPS to kill them before they attack you. I believe your play choices are causing some of your issues. Other rogues in LD that I have played with are not experiencing your problems. They know how to control how much agro they take for difficult situations, and they have sufficent dps to not worry about most trash mobs.
    I don't need to watch your video to understand people using Bottle of Rum for a heal, i've been doing it myself until i got FoM flask. What i pointed out was that you listed "easy" heals to strenghten your argument but used a one with loooong cooldown and shared timer, and Store-bought pots.

    I like to play aggresively, not skulking all the time in the back of the group, that's when i can feel i'm contributing more to the party. Because when a rogue only assassinates with a occasional swing here and there, a party would be better off with some other class instead. And there you go assuming things again. I've never said i'm playing in LD. I've never said i'm having agro/healing issues often. Hell, i'm even still wondering whether, if quickened scroll idea went live, i'd make an investment in APs to use it, cause for me cocoon is clearly better and faster and i'd rather have other things from acro/harper trees. I'm not giving advice in this thread solely so that my rogue benefits from the possible changes, i try to look at the problems from less-geared people's perspective too.

    Yes, i know most mobs check their threat list every few seconds and switch targets according to it. That's not the point. You can't seem to grasp the fact that you don't only fight 1vs1. Unless you do? If you have only one mob on you that's not a problem. Anyway, it's not solo fights that are tough for rogues, it's bigger fights with archers/cleaving mobs.

    I'm still toying with Poisons chain, 6 APs for single target +5 damage and -20 MP with an attack requirement is a rather steep price. Especially, when -20 MP is only really useful in fights with bosses or 1vs1 big hp bags, and depending on how champions are coded it might even be only around 8-10% damage reduction on them.

    I'd like to applaud your confidence and/or foolishness when you say that you'd stand in one spot and take a beating while scroll healing in end game content. I know i wouldn't do that.

    It's just funny that you admit you are using cocoon and see it as easy button (which i think all agree it is one), but don't see it ruining "your playstyle" (which is jumping out of combat, healing, jumping back) while the very idea of quickened scrolls (which would still require 2 more button presses and more time to execute) makes you shudder.
    Last edited by brzytki; 04-18-2015 at 03:10 PM.
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    Did Einstein solo eLoB without pots or what?
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