3th Atri Pre tree - Pavise Arbalester

[RD2play]

I was contemplating the game for a bit and thought up some things

Great crossbows, they are real nice but they are outclassed by repeaters so no one ever uses one. Also I have always wanted to be able to wear a shield while wielding a crossbow. This led me to the Pavise Arbalester. A medium armoured crossbow archer wielding a tower shield.


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Then I thought about to which class in DDO this would fit and I came up with artificer, they are in need of a 3th tree, and they are the main Crossbow class.

This Pre should grant: Be able to equip a shield (type you have proficiency with) while using Nonrepeating-crossbows. Also the Pre should grant you shield proficiencies, (light, further to improve by spending AP, feat or splash) you effectively trade your rune-arm for a shield (or DPS for defence), although I see no reason not to let you swap between. And of course the pre should grant bonuses to using both the shield in conjunction with the crossbow. Which would make the decision to switch less appealing, you would either invest in you rune-arm or in this Arbalester tree.

I think this would make a great addition to the game and the Artificer class. And make nonrepeating crossbows something to look out for again

Thank you!

[Wh070aa]

I would love this.

Problem is that this needs to make the non repeating crossbows do at least 4 times the damage they do now, otherwise it's pretty pointless. Another problem is that there are like 5 or 6 tower shields, and non-repeaters, that are worth using.

But yea, we need archery style that supports archers (aka tower, aka pavise) shields.

[Nefatron]

hmmm...

Although I really hate the idea of a arti using a shield.... Its not a half bad idea.

Using great crossbow with a shield could give you some extra damage or something like swashbuckler to make up for the lack of rune arm use..

This would be pretty cool if it was already implemented, im not sure if i'd like to see a whole tree for this though... Maybe a Melee arti tree that has the shield boosts in it but like the +1 Attack and Damage for Great Crossbows/Short swords for example.

hey.. thats not a bad idea.. Mix a Melee tree with Great cross bow could be cool.. could be messy though..

Alot of people been pointing to arti's getting the 3rd tree. Im afraid to see what they do with it... If its a pet tree... Ill be very disapointed.

[RD2play]

I would love this.

Problem is that this needs to make the non repeating crossbows do at least 4 times the damage they do now, otherwise it's pretty pointless. Another problem is that there are like 5 or 6 tower shields, and non-repeaters, that are worth using.

But yea, we need archery style that supports archers (aka tower, aka pavise) shields.

They could get the attack speed bonus like S&B and of course needs good sources of double shot to get them into the direction of repeaters but the idea is to trade offence for defence. and to look brutal

[RD2play]

hmmm...

Although I really hate the idea of a arti using a shield.... Its not a half bad idea.

Using great crossbow with a shield could give you some extra damage or something like swashbuckler to make up for the lack of rune arm use..

This would be pretty cool if it was already implemented, im not sure if i'd like to see a whole tree for this though... Maybe a Melee arti tree that has the shield boosts in it but like the +1 Attack and Damage for Great Crossbows/Short swords for example.

hey.. thats not a bad idea.. Mix a Melee tree with Great cross bow could be cool.. could be messy though..

Alot of people been pointing to arti's getting the 3rd tree. Im afraid to see what they do with it... If its a pet tree... Ill be very disapointed.

you could of course splash arti into fighter or pally just enough to unlock, just like some splash ftr/plly for the defensive or bard for swash stance.

and if you look at the 2nd picture there is actually two people, so there would be room in this tree to also do a boost to the pet...

[LuKaSu]

I think this sounds like a great idea. I wouldn't autogrant Tower Shield proficiencies (General, sure, but not Tower) to the class unless it was part of the 12,18 or 20 core, because I think it would be highly exploited splash, but the concept sounds great!

Alternatively, it could be an autogrant of a new feat that specifically allowed Tower Shields when using crossbows, but didn't grant the typical Tower Shield feat for use with melee weapons.

[RD2play]

Just thought up a great T5 ability that could be part of this tree,

Barrage: AoE (like fireball) all enemies in effects area take 1D(2/3/4) hits (reflex for half dmg), Hit mobs get pinned for 2/4/6 seconds (fortitude negates).
lore: You load your great crossbow with a Cluster of Bolts and shoot, try to dodge this barrage!

[FuzzyDuck81]

Just thought up a great T5 ability that could be part of this tree,

Barrage: AoE (like fireball) all enemies in effects area take 1D(2/3/4) hits (reflex for half dmg), Hit mobs get pinned for 2/4/6 seconds (fortitude negates).
lore: You load your great crossbow with a Cluster of Bolts and shoot, try to dodge this barrage!

Sound's like Detritus' Piecemaker

[Mryal]

This idea is great.Put in some MRR/PRR and hate bonuses and we could have a ranged tank.That would be interesting.