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    fresh iconic (1 fighter, 11 paladin)
    10 STR
    deconstructed dagger (1d4+0)
    10 MP due to gSWF (only toughness feats otherwise)
    no ship buffs. dummy not helpless.

    Expected results:
    24 STR (+7 mod) 2x STR
    (1 + 14 ) * 1.1 = 16
    (2 + 14 ) * 1.1 = 17
    (3 + 14 ) * 1.1 = 18
    (4 + 14 ) * 1.1 = 19

    24 STR (+7 mod) 1.5x STR rounded down [<- expected]
    (1 + 10) * 1.1 = 11
    (2 + 10) * 1.1 = 12
    (3 + 10) * 1.1 = 13
    (4 + 10) * 1.1 = 14

    24 STR (+7 mod) 1.5x STR rounded up
    (1 + 11) * 1.1 = 12
    (2 + 11) * 1.1 = 13
    (3 + 11) * 1.1 = 14
    (4 + 11) * 1.1 = 15

    Actual results (2015-01-21):
    tested on airship cargo hold training dummy
    10 STR (0 mod): 1-2-3-4
    24 STR (7 mod): 16-17-18-19
    Last edited by Rull; 01-21-2015 at 04:49 AM.

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    And a bonus while I was at it:

    Base: 1-2-3-4
    Know the angles (8 int mod): 5-6-7-8
    Divine Might (8 cha mod): 9-11-12-13
    KtA + DM: 14-15-16-17

    So, instead of + 4 STR mod translating in +6 damage, +0 from KtA since you shouldn't be able to take both, for a total of +6

    It actually is + 4 STR mod translating in +8 damage + 4 from KtA for a total of +12
    Last edited by Rull; 01-21-2015 at 06:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey-Boy View Post

    /Still flabergasted that my DPS went up by over 1000 by replacing my off-hand weapon with a friggin orb . . .

    What does that mean? You do 1000 more dps than you did before? What was your previous DPS? -500?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    um.. ALL SWF builds are currently still over-performing.... Orb wielding Paladins included.
    Even if that's the case, based on your own personal definition of "over performing", then SWF is the problem, not orbs and Shield Mastery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey-Boy View Post
    They absolutely are. If yours isn't it's because your toon isn't good.
    Mine was TR'd quite a while ago. Don't assume I'm some scrub that can't build a character. I'm perfectly fine with the current power level of Paladins and Bards, while you obviously are not. Regardless, orb-wielding, Shield Mastering pallies are no more powerful than any other current flavor of SWFing build. That's was, and still is, my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Postumus View Post
    What does that mean? You do 1000 more dps than you did before? What was your previous DPS? -500?
    Went from about 2700-2800 to 3800-4200 by replacing my off-hand weapon with an orb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastrd View Post
    Shield Mastering pallies are no more powerful than any other current flavor of SWFing build. That's was, and still is, my point.
    If you mean they are stupidly OP compared to the other fighting styles than we are in agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey-Boy View Post
    If you mean they are stupidly OP compared to the other fighting styles than we are in agreement.
    THF and SWF are fine. TWF is under powered, but that has nothing to do with SWF. TWF has been under powered since they nerfed off-hand procs.
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