Best level drain epic melee build?

[Saekee]

Isn't this: (http://ddowiki.com/page/Obscenity)

A random loot effect now? So if someone manages to get that on a Returning Shuriken... wouldn't a shuriken throwing build like critzilla just be stupid.

Hi Xionanx, Obscenity suffixes were sadly removed from the game, replaced by bland unimaginative ones like Acid IV.
I thought Critzilla was built around the Nightforged spike? For throwers, the way to expand their threat range is halfling, pure monk (shuriken), Holy Sword and fighter. AFAIK none of those would stack.

[SealedInSong]

Vampire

But after your exhaustive findings, how do you rate each of these in terms of "most negs per melee second"?

[Saekee]

But after your exhaustive findings, how do you rate each of these in terms of "most negs per melee second"?

hi SealedInSong, glad to see your interest. Based on post #33, the TWF version comes out ahead slightly; SWF is attractive though contingent upon how much doublestrike a player has (through gear and epic past lives etc.). However based upon this thread on CON drain, I suggest combining the two debuffers via the SWF version (12 Wiz pale master, 5 bard/3 barbarian) in Wraith form wielding the easily acquired Sacrificial dagger with CON: Virulent poison. You will drain neg levels AND constitution while using good defenses like incorporeality, temp hit point bursts and self-cast displacement (Swashbuckling forces you in Light or no armor, though).

[Saekee]

hi SealedInSong, glad to see your interest. Based on post #33, the TWF version comes out ahead slightly; SWF is attractive though contingent upon how much doublestrike a player has (through gear and epic past lives etc.). However based upon this thread on CON drain, I suggest combining the two debuffers via the SWF version (12 Wiz pale master, 5 bard/3 barbarian) in Wraith form wielding the easily acquired Sacrificial dagger with CON: Virulent poison. You will drain neg levels AND constitution while using good defenses like incorporeality, temp hit point bursts and self-cast displacement (Swashbuckling forces you in Light or no armor, though).

I was just thinking again about the above advice I wrote. The issue is to be in light armor and not have evasion. Hence I would either dump the barb levels for 2 rogue, or dump the bard and SWF--push for TWF knife specialist, maybe 5 rogue 3 fighter or 6/2, with the choice of either dumping evasion and wearing heavy armor (trying to max out PRR/MRR) or staying with evasion (in which case the 6 bard/2 rogue SWF is better). I think the choice rests in gear you might already have. If aiming for heavy armor version than make sure to do a race with cheap Arcane Spell Failure reduction costs.