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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtsyIndi View Post
    Hi Kent! So, I returned to the game after a sinful amount of time (10 yrs) and made some silly mistakes with a character. Normally I'd just move on. But I put a lesser heroic tome on this one and I just can't make myself loose the 8 levels and the real money on her. So, I need some build advice in order to continue.

    She is an Aasimar Fighter 5 Cleric 3. I plan to use a lesser heart in order to straighten things out like feats and such which I know are all wonky. Her alignment is wrong for a monk addition which is where I got frustrated originally and got onto a Cleric path. Goals: I don't solo much. I tend to support my group but I'm not great at it yet since I haven't been back long. Buffs, heals, maybe add bard?

    32pt char. no tomes. first life. access to high end ship buffs for play. (173) gear - will have to mostly be looted or hunted as I go but I'm interested in Khopesh.

    Interested in the puzzle?

    Love what you do! Thanks for being such a long term member of the community!
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    ok so I not long ago made a Cleric 14 / Fighter 6 S&B build for my wife that worked out well. War domaine stunning blow, stunning shield, trip, and Shield Rush so a lot of stopping power . I can post a first life no tomes ver. of it for you if that sound good to you. One more thing what was you leveling order as of now so no +'s needed on your heart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentpb View Post
    yah I can work up enh trees for you as you are just doing Epic TRs no need to put up full build just feats and trees right? oh and if you are going vistani Dagger in both hands
    If you want a full build to work from then I need your leveling order or as close to it as possible and tomes if any then I will get right on it
    Just recommended enh trees and feats would be great. I've been going overwhelming crit, perfect swf, perfect twf for double strike bonus and dirge charge for my epic feats. I was hoping to go ss in main hand and dagger in off hand to keep the pdk benefits (max cha for hit/dmg/sp). Tomes are 3/3/3/2/4/2. I play casually and cant justify spending real money on supreme tomes. I've been using dreadnaught as my main destiny for the prr benefits since ive been using warchanter and swash buckler swf path as my main enhancement lines. i put the rest in stalwart for prr and a few in spellsinger so my songs last longer and of course the min for pdk cha. Once I finish this epic life I will replace all my swf feats with twf.

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    Kent, could you help me out with a self-sufficient build that levels fairly quickly? I'll probably mostly solo with a hireling but occasionally run with a friend of mine. It'll be a first life with 32 pts. Any race and class is fine, even iconics(although I'm not familiar with them at all). I'm a returning player and only gotten to level 18 with a halfling monk. I still have him. I've just been away for so long, there's so many changes I feel like a novice again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentpb View Post
    ok so I not long ago made a Cleric 14 / Fighter 6 S&B build for my wife that worked out well. War domaine stunning blow, stunning shield, trip, and Shield Rush so a lot of stopping power . I can post a first life no tomes ver. of it for you if that sound good to you. One more thing what was you leveling order as of now so no +'s needed on your heart
    I believe they were as posted, 5 fighter then the 3 cleric. If there is any variation it will be right in the middle at the 4/5 mark. But that shouldn't effect you much. I was so mad when I discovered my alignment was messed up at char gen and I couldn't do my original build plan.

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    Default Aasimar Cleric S&B for ArtsyIndi

    Quote Originally Posted by ArtsyIndi View Post
    Hi Kent! So, I returned to the game after a sinful amount of time (10 yrs) and made some silly mistakes with a character. Normally I'd just move on. But I put a lesser heroic tome on this one and I just can't make myself loose the 8 levels and the real money on her. So, I need some build advice in order to continue.

    She is an Aasimar Fighter 5 Cleric 3. I plan to use a lesser heart in order to straighten things out like feats and such which I know are all wonky. Her alignment is wrong for a monk addition which is where I got frustrated originally and got onto a Cleric path. Goals: I don't solo much. I tend to support my group but I'm not great at it yet since I haven't been back long. Buffs, heals, maybe add bard?

    32pt char. no tomes. first life. access to high end ship buffs for play. (173) gear - will have to mostly be looted or hunted as I go but I'm interested in Khopesh.

    Interested in the puzzle?

    Love what you do! Thanks for being such a long term member of the community!
    Ceileigh
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    Level 30 Lawful Good Aasimar Male
    (6 Fighter \ 14 Cleric \ 10 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 411
    Spell Points: 726 
    BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
    Fortitude: 17
    Reflex: 9
    Will: 13
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 30)           (Level 30)
    Strength             18                 28                   32
    Dexterity             8                  8                    8
    Constitution         14                 16                   16
    Intelligence          8                  8                    8
    Wisdom               14                 14                   14
    Charisma             14                 14                   14
    
    Tomes Used
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 1 \par +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1 \par 
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 30)          (Level 30)
    Balance               0                 10                    9
    Bluff                 0                 10                   12
    Concentration         0                 24                   27
    Diplomacy             0                 10                   12
    Disable Device        n/a              n/a                    n/a
    Haggle                0                 10                   12
    Heal                  2                 12                   14
    Hide                  0                 10                    9
    Intimidate            0                 10                   12
    Jump                  4                 19                   30
    Listen                2                 12                   14
    Move Silently         0                 10                    9
    Open Lock             n/a              n/a                    n/a
    Perform               n/a              n/a                   n/a
    Repair                0                 10                    9
    Search                0                 10                    9
    Spellcraft            0                 10                    9
    Spot                  2                 12                   14
    Swim                  0                 10                   21
    Tumble                n/a              n/a                    n/a
    Use Magic Device      n/a              n/a                   n/a
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
    Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery
    Feat: (Automatic) Aasimar: Aasimar Racial Traits
    Feat: (Automatic) Aasimar: Healing Hands
    Feat: (Automatic) Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
    Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
    Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Trip
    
    
    Level 2 (Fighter)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow
    
    
    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Bash
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
    
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Heroic Durability
    
    
    Level 6 (Cleric)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    Feat: (Deity) Follower of Onatar
    Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
    Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead
    
    
    Level 7 (Cleric)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    
    
    Level 8 (Cleric)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Domain: War Domain
    
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 10 (Cleric)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    
    
    Level 11 (Cleric)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    
    
    Level 12 (Cleric)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery
    Feat: (Automatic) Onatar's Forge
    
    
    Level 13 (Cleric)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    
    
    Level 14 (Cleric)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    
    
    Level 15 (Cleric)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Tacticle Training
    Feat: (Automatic) Domain: War Domain
    
    
    Level 16 (Cleric)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    
    
    Level 17 (Cleric)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    
    
    Level 18 (Cleric)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    
    
    Level 19 (Cleric)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Cleric)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Domain: War Domain
    Enhancement: Aasimar - Stronger Bonds (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Aasimar - Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Aasimar - Stronger Bonds (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Aasimar - Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Aasimar - Stronger Bonds (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Aasimar - Aasimar Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Aasimar - Divine Purpose: Fallen (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Aasimar - Divine Charges (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Aasimar - Divine Charges (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Aasimar - Divine Charges (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Aasimar - Aasimar Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Aasimar - Ascendant Bond: Fallen (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Spiritual Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strike With No Thought (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Toughness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Stalwart Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Stalwart Defensive Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - To the Fore! (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Combat (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Vicious Shield (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Specialization I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Smash (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Smash (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Smash (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Specialization II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Stunning Shield (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Stunning Shield (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Stunning Shield (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Specialization III (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Follow Up (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Follow Up (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Follow Up (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Specialization IV (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Charge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Charge (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Charge (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield to the Face (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Rush (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Rush (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Rush (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Armored Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Smite Foe (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Resilience of Battle (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Toughness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Wall of Steel (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Wall of Steel (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warpriest (Clr) - Wall of Steel (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Power
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Tactician
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Primal Sphere: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 29 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Dire Charge
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Fate Point
    
    
    Level 30 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction
    Feat: (Legendary) Scion of the Astral Plane
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    ED tuff one here:Legendary Dreadnought ( more DPS )
    Twist:
    - Legendary Shield Mastery
    - Consecration
    - Sacred Ground
    - Crusade
    OR
    ED: Divine Crusader ( Mid ground )
    Twist:
    - Legendary Shield Mastery
    - Legendary Tactics
    - Momentum Swing
    - Lay Waste
    OR
    ED: Unyielding Sentinel ( Tanky )
    Twist:
    - Legendary Tactics
    - Consecration
    - Sacred Ground
    - Crusade

    Notes:
    At Cleric level 5 you get Khopesh + B Sword Proficiencies from War Domain fact is you get a lot of good stuff from War domain.
    Level 2: You gain +1 to hit and damage with melee and ranged weapons. This increases at 4th, 8th, 12th, 16th and 20th.
    Upon Turning: When you use Turn Undead your party gains a Divine bonus to Melee Power and Ranged Power equal to half your Cleric level for 20 seconds.
    Level 5: You gain proficiency in all martial and exotic weapons.
    Level 9: Your tactical DCs are increased by half your Cleric level.
    Level 14: You gain Holy Sword as an SLA. 10 SP, 6 second cooldown.

    As always hope this works for you if you have any ?s feel free to ask

    On Arggo head of the "WoodShadows" guild looking for a laid back play for fun new recruits
    For Build help or any other ?'s hit me up here Kent's custom Character Builds
    The Character Planer I use can be found here DDO Character Planner by Ordinary

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    Red face Clarifications

    Just a couple of clarifications. You recommended Ollandra, which is hammers. I assume that's just flavor since once War kicks in by 10 I can wield whatever I like. So, till then, hammers would be best? Also, do you have any spell recommendations? I know some builds work better with certain kinds over others or will at higher levels.
    Thanks again! I got her all set up. Just looking for decent gear now. Oy! What a kerfuffle! Good news is, she is so much prettier now thanks to you.

    Zeharia - Tyrs Paladium - On Gallandra (sp?)
    (In case you want the toon name)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtsyIndi View Post
    Just a couple of clarifications.(1) You recommended Ollandra, which is hammers. I assume that's just flavor since once War kicks in by 10 I can wield whatever I like. (2) So, till then, hammers would be best? (3) Also, do you have any spell recommendations? I know some builds work better with certain kinds over others or will at higher levels.
    Thanks again! I got her all set up. (4) Just looking for decent gear now. Oy! What a kerfuffle! Good news is, she is so much prettier now thanks to you.

    Zeharia - Tyrs Paladium - On Gallandra (sp?)
    (In case you want the toon name)
    (1) not just flavor but as you get one of the level 6 feats for free this one seems the most useful as it gives you you gain +3 to tactical feat DCs, +10 Melee Power thoe at level 20 it only last for 108 sec and has a 10 min cooldown it might help with that one fight that you just need the mobs to start dying a little faster
    (2) not really as the build gets none of the Enh to your gods Fav wep because the plan was to go Khopesh as you requested so just the best of the weps you can use up till 10. After 10 I like the Khopesh but really best Khopesh, Bastard sword, or Dwarven axe you can get would do.
    (3) well first no spell with a DC just not built for it. Heals and buffs, and one of note that some overlook is Divine Power (lev 4 spell) because they see the +6 enhancement bonus to Strength, 1 temporary hit point per caster level of no real use as the str dose not stack but the big thing is the base attack bonus equal to a Fighter of the same level as you use Heavy Armor and in HA you gain 2x your base attack bonus in physical resistance when wearing heavy armor. so this spell will increase your PRR.
    (4) remember + stunning , + vertigo , and + insightful combat mastery

    Well think that covers it if you have any more ?'s you know where to find me sorry it taking me sooo long to respond really only finding time on the weekends now RL sucks lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Mud_Man View Post
    Kent, could you help me out with a self-sufficient build that levels fairly quickly? I'll probably mostly solo with a hireling but occasionally run with a friend of mine. It'll be a first life with 32 pts. Any race and class is fine, even iconics(although I'm not familiar with them at all). I'm a returning player and only gotten to level 18 with a halfling monk. I still have him. I've just been away for so long, there's so many changes I feel like a novice again.
    well looking through the builds I have done so far these will do

    and in the next post I will put a Warlock build I have used for some RTRing but make it a first life and go all the way to 30 for you
    Last edited by Kentpb; 05-19-2018 at 07:28 PM.

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    Default Warlock CC for my TRing :) EASY LIFES

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    Level 30 True Neutral Half-Elf Male
    (20 Warlock \ 10 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 350
    Spell Points: 1083 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 11
    Reflex: 8
    Will: 14
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 30)           (Level 30)
    Strength              8                  8                    8
    Dexterity            10                 10                   10
    Constitution         16                 16                   17
    Intelligence         12                 12                   12
    Wisdom                8                  8                    8
    Charisma             18                 25                   29
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 30)          (Level 30)
    Balance               0                 10                   10
    Bluff                 0                 10                   19
    Concentration         4                 33                   36
    Diplomacy             0                 10                   19
    Disable Device        n/a              n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                0                 10                   19
    Heal                  0                 10                    9
    Hide                  0                 10                   10
    Intimidate            0                 10                   19
    Jump                  0                 10                    9
    Listen                0                 10                    9
    Move Silently         0                 10                   10
    Open Lock             n/a              n/a                   n/a
    Perform               n/a              n/a                   n/a
    Repair                0                 10                   11
    Search                0                 10                   11
    Spellcraft            4                 33                   34
    Spot                  0                 10                    9
    Swim                  0                 10                    9
    Tumble                n/a              n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device      9                 43                   52
    
    Level 1 (Warlock)
    Skill: Concentration (+4)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Paladin
    Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Conjuration
    Feat: (Automatic) Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Keen Senses
    Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Mixed Heritage
    Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Social Graces (ALL)
    Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Immunity to Sleep
    Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
    Feat: (Automatic) Warlock: Deceive Item
    Feat: (Automatic) Warlock: Eldritch Blast Damage
    Feat: (Automatic) Warlock: Eldritch Blast Focused
    Feat: (Automatic) Warlock: Pact Magic: Great Old One
    Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors
    
    
    Level 2 (Warlock)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Trip
    Feat: (Automatic) Warlock: Pact Damage
    Spell (1): Jump
    
    
    Level 3 (Warlock)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Conjuration
    
    
    Level 4 (Warlock)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Warlock: Thought Shield
    Spell (2): Blur
    
    
    Level 5 (Warlock)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Heroic Durability
    
    
    Level 6 (Warlock)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment
    Feat: (Automatic) Warlock: Entropic Ward
    
    
    Level 7 (Warlock)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (3): Charm Monster
    
    
    Level 8 (Warlock)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (2): Suggestion
    
    
    Level 9 (Warlock)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
    
    
    Level 10 (Warlock)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (4): Evard's Black Tentacles
    
    
    Level 11 (Warlock)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (3): Dimension Door
    
    
    Level 12 (Warlock)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
    Feat: (Automatic) Warlock: Paragon's Aegis
    
    
    Level 13 (Warlock)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (5): Hold Person, Mass
    
    
    Level 14 (Warlock)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (4): Hold Monster
    
    
    Level 15 (Warlock)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration
    Feat: (Automatic) Warlock: Create Trall
    
    
    Level 16 (Warlock)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (6): Hold Monster, Mass
    
    
    Level 17 (Warlock)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (5): Tenser's Transformation
    
    
    Level 18 (Warlock)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
    
    
    Level 19 (Warlock)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (6): Mass Charm Monster
    
    
    Level 20 (Warlock)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Spellcraft (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Eldritch Blast
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Spell Penetration
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Arcane Sphere: Epic Arcane Eldritch Blast
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Embolden Spell
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: CHA
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Arcane Sphere: Epic Spell Power: Acid
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 29 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Divine Sphere: Epic Spell Power: Light
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 30 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Wellspring of Power
    Feat: (Legendary) Scion of the Plane of Earth
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    Enhancement: Half Elf - Half-Elven Versatile Nature (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Half Elf - Human Adaptability: Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Half Elf - Human Versatility: Spell Power Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Half Elf - Human Greater Adaptability: Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Half Elf - Arcanum (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Tainted Spellcasting (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Tainted Lore I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Stanch (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Tainted Lore II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Blood Component (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Command (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Command (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Command (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Strong Pact I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Utterdark Blast (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Eldritch Blast Shape: Chain (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Strong Pact II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Efficient Heighten (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Efficient Heighten (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Strong Pact III (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Strong Pact IV (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Eldritch Aura (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Aura of Courage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Shape Vestments (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Aura of Menace (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Celestial Spirit (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Ultimate Enlightenment (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Resilience of Body (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Resilience of Body (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Resilience of Body (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Resilience of Soul (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Resilience of Soul (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Resilience of Soul (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Bastion (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Bastion (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Bastion (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Power of Enlightenment - Light I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Power of Enlightenment - Light I (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Power of Enlightenment - Light I (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Shield (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Ward (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Ward (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Ward (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Power of Enlightenment - Light II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Power of Enlightenment - Light II (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Power of Enlightenment - Light II (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Retribution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Retribution (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Retribution (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Brilliance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Shining Through (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Displacement (Rank 1)
    ED: Shiradi Champion
    Twist:
    - [Spell School] Specialist
    - Piercing Spellcraft
    - Rejuvenation Cocoon
    - Energy Burst

    Notes:
    So this is first life as a 1/2 elf on other lives and races Stats go max Cha just enough Int to get 3 skill points /lev then the rest in to Con. The last 8 AP that here I spent in race tree can go in to race tree if there is any thing that helps the build (ie:Cha, Con, or spell pen) you could use in Soul Eater (4 AP here will get you 11 Spell power, 8 gets you 17) just don't get Bewitching Blast from the Tainted Scholar enhancements if you charm confused mobs they can then att you and you will not be able to target them to un charm and melee will not be able to hit them (bad bug) you would just have to wait for charm to where off and this bug really sucks!!
    I like to set my gear up so I can always have a Heal scroll in my hand once I can cast it with UMD
    Last edited by Kentpb; 05-19-2018 at 04:54 PM.

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    Awesome. Thanks!

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    Default Vistani Ice Spinner for nallfein

    Quote Originally Posted by nallfein View Post
    I have a human bard/ftr/rog 14/6/2. I'm currently grinding epics for completionist as swf swash ice baron trapper. I just unlocked vistani knife line with Ravenloft favor. I was wondering if going 2wf pdk ice spinnner with vistani would be viable for decent dps. I have 3 past lives as a bard, one arti ( took a break for 3 yrs when juggernaut was the thing), one past iconic as Shadar Kai ( I tried the shadow bard build before discovering PDK Ice Baron build) and I'm currently about to start my 8th epic life. I was thinking ss for main hand and dagger for off. What would you suggest Mr. Build Guy?
    Well I must first say if you want to go Vistani you need to have a dagger in both hands for it to work a lot more DPS this way that said you throw out the PDK cha to dam & hit + 1/3 Mod to tac DC's and go Harper Int to Hit & Dam + 1/2 mod to tac DC's. This makes Int & Cha your mane stats + you need 14 Dex at start to hit 17 with your +3 tome to get ITWF and points into Con you are Melee so I would drop 1 level of Rog so you hit 15 Bard to get Inspire Excellence in epics & with out Evasion might as well get Armorer from warchanter and wear medium armor . With Int as a main stat your Skills look much better too. this build will be much tougher and have better DPS, but to implement you will have to start back at 15 and get back to 20 to start farming your ED's
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    Level 30 True Neutral Purple Dragon Knight Male
    (4 Fighter \ 1 Rogue \ 15 Bard \ 10 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 436
    Spell Points: 496 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 14
    Reflex: 19
    Will: 11
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 30)           (Level 30)
    Strength              8                 11                   11
    Dexterity            14                 17                   17
    Constitution         16                 19                   20
    Intelligence         16                 25                   26
    Wisdom                8                 12                   12
    Charisma             16                 18                   22
    
    Tomes Used
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 1 \par +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1 \par +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 1 \par +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1 \par +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 1 \par 
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 30)          (Level 30)
    Balance               0                 10                   13
    Bluff                 0                 10                   16
    Concentration         2                 33                   38
    Diplomacy             0                 10                   16
    Disable Device        n/a               34                   42
    Haggle                0                 10                   16
    Heal                  2                 19                   20
    Hide                  0                 10                   13
    Intimidate            0                 10                   16
    Jump                  4                 33                   33
    Listen                0                 10                   11
    Move Silently         0                 10                   13
    Open Lock             n/a               33                   36
    Perform               2                 33                   39
    Repair                1                 11                   19
    Search                3                 34                   42
    Spellcraft            0                 10                   18
    Spot                  0                 10                   11
    Swim                  0                 10                   10
    Tumble                n/a              n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device      3                 34                   40
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Heal (+2)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Perform (+2)
    Skill: Search (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Defense
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons
    
    
    Level 2 (Rogue)
    Skill: Disable Device (+5)
    Skill: Open Lock (+5)
    Skill: Search (+3)
    
    
    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Piercing Weapons
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+5)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+3)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Selected) Tacticle Training
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+4)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+4)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+3)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+3)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+3)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Inspire Excellence
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Primal Sphere: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Tactician
    
    
    Level 29 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Dire Charge
    
    
    Level 30 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction
    Feat: (Legendary) Scion of the Astral Plane
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Skaldic Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Song of Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Enchant Weapon (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Ironskin Chant (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Armorer (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Howl of the North (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Spinning Ice (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Spinning Ice (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Spinning Ice (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Knife Expertise (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Knife Juggler (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Quick Reflexes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - One With Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Vistani Fortune (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Vistani Knife Training I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Mist Stalker I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Rapid Slash (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Vistani Knife Training II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Mist Stalker II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Vistani Knife Training III (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Mist Stalker III (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Deadly Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Vistani Knife Training IV (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Celerity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Mist Stalker IV (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Double Daggers (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Agent of Good (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Intelligence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Harper Enchantment (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Strategic Combat I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Know The Angles (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Know The Angles (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Know The Angles (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Strategic Combat II (Rank 1)
    ED: well your farming ED's so any
    Twist:
    - Legendary Tactics
    - Improved Combat Expertise
    - Rejuvenation Cocoon
    - Echoes of the Ancestors (Legendary Dreadnought)

    Notes: hope this works for you sorry to say if you still want to go PDK training for Cha base build with S sword then don't go Vistani. If you have any other ?'s feel free to ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentpb View Post
    Notes:
    So this is first life as a 1/2 elf on other lives and races Stats go max Cha just enough Int to get 3 skill points /lev then the rest in to Con. The last 8 AP that here I spent in race tree can go in to race tree if there is any thing that helps the build (ie:Cha, Con, or spell pen) you could use in Soul Eater (4 AP here will get you 11 Spell power, 8 gets you 17) just don't get Bewitching Blast from the Tainted Scholar enhancements if you charm confused mobs they can then att you and you will not be able to target them to un charm and melee will not be able to hit them (bad bug) you would just have to wait for charm to where off and this bug really sucks!!
    I like to set my gear up so I can always have a Heal scroll in my hand once I can cast it with UMD
    So, just gear to raise my UMD high enough to cast Heal scrolls without fail? What should I look for after that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Mud_Man View Post
    So, just gear to raise my UMD high enough to cast Heal scrolls without fail? What should I look for after that?
    in this build by level 10 or so just with good cha item and the points you put in as you lev should be good no Item needed

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    Thanks again

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    Excellent Kent! I'm going to give this a try exactly as you have it written. I just gotta get a couple daggers now I hadn't considered using INT and harper to hit and dmg. Also didn't realize it was 1/2 instead of 1/3. The points in rogue skills will make a difference in higher reapers. Found that out the hard way the other day I have all my ED's maxxed. About to start my 3rd Divine Life with only Arcane to go. Once I have Epic completionist what you would you reccomend as the best destiny for max dps? If you could lay that out that would be super wonderful fan Fah King tastic. Thanks again man. You just made the christmas card list One last thing: Can I change my alignment with an ITR? And what is the benefit of going TN?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kentpb View Post
    Well I must first say if you want to go Vistani you need to have a dagger in both hands for it to work a lot more DPS this way that said you throw out the PDK cha to dam & hit + 1/3 Mod to tac DC's and go Harper Int to Hit & Dam + 1/2 mod to tac DC's. This makes Int & Cha your mane stats + you need 14 Dex at start to hit 17 with your +3 tome to get ITWF and points into Con you are Melee so I would drop 1 level of Rog so you hit 15 Bard to get Inspire Excellence in epics & with out Evasion might as well get Armorer from warchanter and wear medium armor . With Int as a main stat your Skills look much better too. this build will be much tougher and have better DPS, but to implement you will have to start back at 15 and get back to 20 to start farming your ED's
    Code:
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    Level 30 True Neutral Purple Dragon Knight Male
    (4 Fighter \ 1 Rogue \ 15 Bard \ 10 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 436
    Spell Points: 496 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 14
    Reflex: 19
    Will: 11
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 30)           (Level 30)
    Strength              8                 11                   11
    Dexterity            14                 17                   17
    Constitution         16                 19                   20
    Intelligence         16                 25                   26
    Wisdom                8                 12                   12
    Charisma             16                 18                   22
    
    Tomes Used
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 1 \par +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1 \par +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 1 \par +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1 \par +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 1 \par 
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 30)          (Level 30)
    Balance               0                 10                   13
    Bluff                 0                 10                   16
    Concentration         2                 33                   38
    Diplomacy             0                 10                   16
    Disable Device        n/a               34                   42
    Haggle                0                 10                   16
    Heal                  2                 19                   20
    Hide                  0                 10                   13
    Intimidate            0                 10                   16
    Jump                  4                 33                   33
    Listen                0                 10                   11
    Move Silently         0                 10                   13
    Open Lock             n/a               33                   36
    Perform               2                 33                   39
    Repair                1                 11                   19
    Search                3                 34                   42
    Spellcraft            0                 10                   18
    Spot                  0                 10                   11
    Swim                  0                 10                   10
    Tumble                n/a              n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device      3                 34                   40
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Heal (+2)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Perform (+2)
    Skill: Search (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Defense
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons
    
    
    Level 2 (Rogue)
    Skill: Disable Device (+5)
    Skill: Open Lock (+5)
    Skill: Search (+3)
    
    
    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Piercing Weapons
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+5)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+3)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Selected) Tacticle Training
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+4)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+4)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+3)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+3)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+3)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1.5)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Inspire Excellence
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Primal Sphere: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Tactician
    
    
    Level 29 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Dire Charge
    
    
    Level 30 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction
    Feat: (Legendary) Scion of the Astral Plane
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Skaldic Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Weapon Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Song of Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Enchant Weapon (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Rough and Ready (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Iced Edges (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Ironskin Chant (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Frozen Fury (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Armorer (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Northwind (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Howl of the North (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Spinning Ice (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Spinning Ice (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Spinning Ice (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Knife Expertise (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Knife Juggler (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Quick Reflexes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - One With Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Vistani Fortune (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Vistani Knife Training I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Mist Stalker I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Rapid Slash (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Vistani Knife Training II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Mist Stalker II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Vistani Knife Training III (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Mist Stalker III (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Deadly Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Vistani Knife Training IV (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Celerity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Mist Stalker IV (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Double Daggers (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vistani Knife Fighter - Charisma (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Agent of Good (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Intelligence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Harper Enchantment (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Strategic Combat I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Know The Angles (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Know The Angles (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Know The Angles (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Strategic Combat II (Rank 1)
    ED: well your farming ED's so any
    Twist:
    - Legendary Tactics
    - Improved Combat Expertise
    - Rejuvenation Cocoon
    - Echoes of the Ancestors (Legendary Dreadnought)

    Notes: hope this works for you sorry to say if you still want to go PDK training for Cha base build with S sword then don't go Vistani. If you have any other ?'s feel free to ask.

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    Default TO nallfein

    Quote Originally Posted by nallfein View Post
    Excellent Kent! I'm going to give this a try exactly as you have it written. I just gotta get a couple daggers now I hadn't considered using INT and harper to hit and dmg. Also didn't realize it was 1/2 instead of 1/3. The points in rogue skills will make a difference in higher reapers. Found that out the hard way the other day I have all my ED's maxxed. About to start my 3rd Divine Life with only Arcane to go. Once I have Epic completionist what you would you reccomend as the best destiny for max dps? If you could lay that out that would be super wonderful fan Fah King tastic. Thanks again man. You just made the christmas card list One last thing: Can I change my alignment with an ITR? And what is the benefit of going TN?
    yes you can set a new alignment with a ITR. I would always go TN unless you need a other alignment for your class it keeps you from getting a neg level from Tainted Items

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    Wink Zeharia's Clean up!

    Thanks so much Kent! I hope your wife is enjoying the build as much as I intend to!

    Z

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtsyIndi View Post
    Thanks so much Kent! I hope your wife is enjoying the build as much as I intend to!

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    She loved it she needed a Cleric PL and she won't be a party healer (but could be a good 2nd healer at higher levels) it's to much stress for her and she likes Melee so this is what she got its at 20 now waiting for her next build
    Last edited by Kentpb; 05-22-2018 at 09:02 PM.

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    Question 12 wizard/6 fighter/2 rogue WF or 12wizard/6fighter/2monk WF

    Hi Kent,
    I am a player returning after a 2 year hiatus and was playing around with the character planner for a WF toon I have presently at his 3rd life. Currently he was a barbarian and paladin great sword user; hence I have a collection of great swords. No matter what I try on paper it doesn't look like a decent build but I would like to run at least r1's solo. I bought him the supreme +6 tome. I want him to be able to have a good dps but able to tank if need be. I know you can't have it both ways but I'd like to try. I was leaning toward monk over rogue so I could use Kensai's t6 ability to remain centered with great swords, yet whatever you suggest will be helpful. You helped me out with an old AA build years ago (I think 2011) and would appreciate your help again if you could.


    Thank you,

    Havik

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    Default Vistani Assassin

    Hey guys, this is my first time on here, because ive been looking for advice on a build i want to do.

    So basically its a 18rogue2monk. t5 assassin + lv18core. and t3-4 vistani. Dex to dmg/hit with monk storm stance. I want to play it like an assassin, with all the skills rogues use.
    I was putting it in character builder but got stumped even at the stats section because iirc bluff is charisma stat, and wisdom is spot/listen. I never played a heavily invested into rogue toon like this before so im not sure what i can skip.

    So I'm a 36 point build, supreme +6 tome. 3 pl in ranger,monk,pally,rogue(i did some rogue archers like 6 levels),fighter. 1 pl in barb and fvs soon. All archers so never played a pure melee before if that matters.

    If i ignored the skills i mentioned i would of done 10str 18dex 14con 16int 12wis 10cha. But i doubt my bluff will be very effective like that?
    Also i can craft any cannith crafting item for myself, so i can get gear that really helps it if thats all id need.

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