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    Default Bard | Barbarian | Fighter -- Drunken Mother-in-Law

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    Human ChaGo FightBarbBard
    Level 28 Chaotic Good Human Female
    (4 Fighter \ 4 Barbarian \ 12 Bard \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 453
    Spell Points: 739 
    BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
    Fortitude: 18
    Reflex: 15
    Will: 12
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength             16                    23
    Dexterity            13                    20
    Constitution         16                    23
    Intelligence          9                    16
    Wisdom                8                    15
    Charisma             16                    23
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15
    +5 Tome of Strength used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Charisma used at level 19
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
    Balance               1                    15
    Bluff                 3                    16
    Concentration         3                    16
    Diplomacy             3                    16
    Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                3                    19
    Heal                 -1                    12
    Hide                  1                    15
    Intimidate            7                    33
    Jump                  7                    36
    Listen               -1                    35
    Move Silently         1                    15
    Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
    Perform               n/a                  39
    Repair               -1                    14
    Search               -1                    14
    Spellcraft           -1                    36
    Spot                 -1                    12
    Swim                  3                    18
    Tumble                n/a                  16
    Use Magic Device      n/a                  40
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Mobility
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Druid
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
    Feat: (Selected) Precision
    Feat: (Automatic) Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
    Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
    Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Trip
    
    
    Level 2 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Rage
    Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
    Feat: (Automatic) Rage
    
    
    Level 3 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Completionist
    Feat: (Automatic) Damage Reduction
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Bash
    
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery
    Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Charm
    Feat: (Automatic) Fascinate
    Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Competence
    Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Courage
    Spell (1): Cause Fear
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Heroic Durability
    Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Spell (1): Grease
    
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Mastery
    Feat: (Automatic) Suggestion
    
    
    Level 10 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense
    
    
    Level 11 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Inspire Courage
    Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge
    Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge (Dodge Bonus)
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Greatness
    Spell (2): Blur
    Spell (2): Glitterdust
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
    Spell (2): Scare
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Song of Freedom
    Spell (2): Soundburst
    Spell (3): Displacement
    Spell (3): Fear
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Spell (3): Haste
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Heroics
    Spell (3): Good Hope
    Spell (4): Shout
    Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Power
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Inspire Excellence
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Holy Strike
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Forced Escape
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Weapon Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Ear Smash (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Ear Smash (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Ear Smash (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Parrying Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Parrying Bond (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Parrying Bond (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Knockout (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Knockout (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Knockout (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Guarding Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Guarding Bond (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Guarding Bond (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - To the Fore! (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Combat (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Specialization I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Unbalancing Shove (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Unbalancing Shove (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Unbalancing Shove (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Stunning Shield (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Stunning Shield (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Stunning Shield (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Fatal Bulwark (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Confidence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Swashbuckling (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Uncanny Dodge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Scathing Words (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Scathing Words (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Scathing Words (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Deflect Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Sword Dance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Sword Dance (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Sword Dance (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Elegant Footwork (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Skirmisher (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Resonant Arms (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Resonant Arms (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Resonant Arms (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Low Blow (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Battering Barrage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Battering Barrage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Thread the Needle (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Coupe De Grace (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Exploit Weakness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Furious Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Pain Touch (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Ritual Scarring (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Ritual Scarring (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Ritual Scarring (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Do You Like Pain? (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Do You Like Pain? (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Do You Like Pain? (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Fear Me! (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Aura of Fear (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Aura of Fear (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Aura of Fear (Rank 3)
    As Christmas is around the corner and that means yet another dreaded dinner with the in laws I've decided to draw up what most of you folks would think your Mother in laws would be in DDO.

    Just for fun , another hypothetical build.

    Feedback on tweaking things around welcome.



    ps I love my mother in law.
    (That's a safety escape closure in case she sees this. )

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    So is dodge-mobility-springattack the way to go or should I spend those feats on single weapon fighting?

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    A few comments:
    • Precision doesn't work with barb Rage, so you can drop it. [Unless the plan is to never use Rage; hard to tell from your enhs.]
    • If you're going the S&B Swashie route, you definitely want the SWF feats ASAP. Then and only then may you squander any remaining feats on D/M/SA. [EDIT: personally I would take Cleave & GC instead, but that's your call.]
    • You list Inspire Excellence, but you must've confused the builder or something, because that req's Inspire Heroics, which you don't get until bard lvl 15.
    Semi-retired Build Engineer. Everything was better back in our day. Get off my lawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    A few comments:
    • Precision doesn't work with barb Rage, so you can drop it. [Unless the plan is to never use Rage; hard to tell from your enhs.]
    • If you're going the S&B Swashie route, you definitely want the SWF feats ASAP. Then and only then may you squander any remaining feats on D/M/SA. [EDIT: personally I would take Cleave & GC instead, but that's your call.]
    • You list Inspire Excellence, but you must've confused the builder or something, because that req's Inspire Heroics, which you don't get until bard lvl 15.
    Thx, So I dropped two levels of Bard while I was at it and took Barbarian instead so I'd access Demoralizing Success as I expect to crit often.


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    Human ChaGo FightBarbBard
    Level 28 Chaotic Good Human Female
    (4 Fighter \ 6 Barbarian \ 10 Bard \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 470
    Spell Points: 677 
    BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
    Fortitude: 18
    Reflex: 15
    Will: 12
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 28)           (Level 28)
    Strength             16                 23                   23
    Dexterity            13                 20                   20
    Constitution         16                 23                   23
    Intelligence          9                 16                   16
    Wisdom                8                 15                   15
    Charisma             16                 23                   23
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15
    +5 Tome of Strength used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Charisma used at level 19
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 28)          (Level 28)
    Balance               1                  5                   15
    Bluff                 3                  6                   16
    Concentration         3                  6                   16
    Diplomacy             3                  6                   16
    Disable Device       n/a                n/a                  n/a
    Haggle                3                  6                   19
    Heal                 -1                  2                   12
    Hide                  1                  5                   15
    Intimidate            7                 20                   33
    Jump                  7                 26                   36
    Listen               -1                 25                   35
    Move Silently         1                  5                   15
    Open Lock             n/a               n/a                  n/a
    Perform               n/a               27                   37
    Repair               -1                  3                   14
    Search               -1                  3                   14
    Spellcraft           -1                 24                   34
    Spot                 -1                  2                   12
    Swim                  3                  8                   18
    Tumble                n/a                6                   16
    Use Magic Device      n/a               28                   39
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Druid
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Single Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
    Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
    Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Trip
    
    
    Level 2 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Rage
    Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
    Feat: (Automatic) Rage
    
    
    Level 3 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Completionist
    Feat: (Automatic) Damage Reduction
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Bash
    
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery
    Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Charm
    Feat: (Automatic) Fascinate
    Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Courage
    Spell (1): Cause Fear
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Competence
    Spell (1): Grease
    
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Mastery
    
    
    Level 10 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense
    
    
    Level 11 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge
    Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge (Dodge Bonus)
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Single Weapon Fighting
    Spell (2): Blur
    Spell (2): Glitterdust
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Heroic Durability
    Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
    Spell (2): Scare
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Feat: (Automatic) Suggestion
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Single Weapon Fighting
    Spell (2): Soundburst
    Spell (3): Displacement
    Spell (3): Fear
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Inspire Courage
    Spell (3): Haste
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Greatness
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder
    Spell (3): Good Hope
    Spell (4): Shout
    Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
    
    
    Level 19 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 20 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Power
    Feat: (Automatic) Epic: Epic Skills
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Holy Strike
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Forced Escape
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Weapon Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Ear Smash (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Ear Smash (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Ear Smash (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Parrying Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Parrying Bond (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Parrying Bond (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Uncanny Dodger (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Uncanny Dodger (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Uncanny Dodger (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Knockout (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Knockout (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Knockout (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Guarding Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Guarding Bond (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Guarding Bond (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - To the Fore! (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Combat (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Specialization I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Unbalancing Shove (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Unbalancing Shove (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Unbalancing Shove (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Stunning Shield (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Stunning Shield (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Stunning Shield (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Fatal Bulwark (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Confidence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Swashbuckling (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Uncanny Dodge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Blow By Blow (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Blow By Blow (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Blow By Blow (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Sword Dance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Sword Dance (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Sword Dance (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Elegant Footwork (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Skirmisher (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Resonant Arms (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Resonant Arms (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Resonant Arms (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Low Blow (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Battering Barrage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Battering Barrage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Coupe De Grace (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Exploit Weakness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Furious Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Pain Touch (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Demoralizing Success (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Ritual Scarring (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Ritual Scarring (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Ritual Scarring (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Barbarian Power Attack (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Fear Me! (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Aura of Fear (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Aura of Fear (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Aura of Fear (Rank 3)

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    Nope, the single weapon fighting feat line isn't working with improved shield mastery.
    That's probably why I didn't put it in there in the first place.

    But I also wanted to wear a fullplate and that doesn't work with swashbuckling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightBear View Post
    Nope, the single weapon fighting feat line isn't working with improved shield mastery.
    That's probably why I didn't put it in there in the first place.

    But I also wanted to wear a fullplate and that doesn't work with swashbuckling.
    SWF works with shield mastery if its a swashie build and bucklers I thought?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightBear View Post
    Nope, the single weapon fighting feat line isn't working with improved shield mastery.
    SWF feats stack with Shield Mastery feats if you have the Skirmisher enhancement and equip a buckler.
    But I also wanted to wear a fullplate and that doesn't work with swashbuckling.
    Skirmisher's "you may use a Buckler and still benefit from the Single Weapon Fighting line of feats" effect does not depend on Swashbuckling being active; which means it works with any armor type and any regular 1H weapon. Obviously, you miss out on the crit bonuses from Swashbuckling, but gaining doublestrike (and modest +PRR/MRR) from Shield Mastery line is still a nice DPS perk.

    The real issue with your plan is ASF reduction, since WC Armorer only applies to med armor; annoyingly, it does nothing to reduce hvy armor ASF, IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    SWF feats stack with Shield Mastery feats if you have the Skirmisher enhancement and equip a buckler.

    Skirmisher's "you may use a Buckler and still benefit from the Single Weapon Fighting line of feats" effect does not depend on Swashbuckling being active; which means it works with any armor type and any regular 1H weapon. Obviously, you miss out on the crit bonuses from Swashbuckling, but gaining doublestrike (and modest +PRR/MRR) from Shield Mastery line is still a nice DPS perk.

    The real issue with your plan is ASF reduction, since WC Armorer only applies to med armor; annoyingly, it does nothing to reduce hvy armor ASF, IIRC.
    That's what I should have said, Swashbuckling and Vanguard can't be active at the same time?

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    Purple ChaGo FightBarbBard
    Level 28 Chaotic Good Purple Dragon Knight Male
    (4 Fighter \ 6 Barbarian \ 10 Bard \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 470
    Spell Points: 785 
    BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
    Fortitude: 18
    Reflex: 15
    Will: 12
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength             16                    24
    Dexterity            13                    21
    Constitution         16                    24
    Intelligence          9                    17
    Wisdom                8                    16
    Charisma             16                    31
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15
    +5 Tome of Strength used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 19
    +5 Tome of Charisma used at level 19
    +6 Tome of Strength used at level 23
    +6 Tome of Dexterity used at level 23
    +6 Tome of Constitution used at level 23
    +6 Tome of Intelligence used at level 23
    +6 Tome of Wisdom used at level 23
    +6 Tome of Charisma used at level 23
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
    Balance               1                    15
    Bluff                 3                    20
    Concentration         3                    16
    Diplomacy             3                    20
    Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                3                    23
    Heal                 -1                    12
    Hide                  1                    15
    Intimidate            7                    37
    Jump                  7                    36
    Listen               -1                    35
    Move Silently         1                    15
    Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
    Perform               n/a                  41
    Repair               -1                    14
    Search               -1                    14
    Spellcraft           -1                    34
    Spot                 -1                    12
    Swim                  3                    18
    Tumble                n/a                  16
    Use Magic Device      n/a                  43
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Druid
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Precision
    Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Single Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 2 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 3 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Completionist
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Bash
    
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Mastery
    
    
    Level 10 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 11 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Single Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Single Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Mobility
    
    
    Level 19 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 20 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Single Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - To the Fore! (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Combat (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Specialization I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Unbalancing Shove (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Unbalancing Shove (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Unbalancing Shove (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Specialization II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Brutality (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Stunning Shield (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Stunning Shield (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Stunning Shield (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Follow Up (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Follow Up (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Follow Up (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Fatal Bulwark (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Vanguard (Ftr) - Shield Charge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Confidence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Swashbuckling (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Uncanny Dodge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Blow By Blow (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Blow By Blow (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Blow By Blow (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Scathing Words (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Scathing Words (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Scathing Words (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Sword Dance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Sword Dance (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Sword Dance (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Elegant Footwork (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Skirmisher (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Resonant Arms (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Resonant Arms (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Resonant Arms (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Low Blow (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Battering Barrage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Battering Barrage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Thread the Needle (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Coupe De Grace (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Exploit Weakness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Furious Rage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Pain Touch (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Demoralizing Success (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Ritual Scarring (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Ritual Scarring (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Ritual Scarring (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Do You Like Pain? (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Do You Like Pain? (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Do You Like Pain? (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Fear Me! (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Aura of Fear (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Aura of Fear (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Aura of Fear (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Slaughter (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Slaughter (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Slaughter (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ravager (Bar) - Laughter (Rank 1)
    Last edited by LightBear; 03-06-2015 at 06:35 AM. Reason: My latest take on this build, changed human to Purple Dragon Knight

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    Ok, at level 21 of my second attempt of building this char and she's a beauty.
    12 Barbarian, 7 Bard and 1 fighter Purple Dragon.
    I'm still working on the kinks as I still want to include the feats GreatCleave and Extend Magic.
    The extend is there for spells like Displacement and haste.
    Great Cleave for it self and resetting Momentum Swing.
    Twist right now are Sense Weakness, Momentum Swing and Legendary Shield Mastery.
    Epic Destiny is Devine Crusader.
    Enhancements are Ravager, Occult Slayer and Swashbuckler.
    Notable equipment:
    - Epic Swashbuckler;
    - Parasitic Breastplate with Solipsism;
    - Treason;
    - Ring of Lies;
    - Ring of the Stalker;
    - Emerald Claw Talisman.

    Only downside is that some of the special attacks from bard are considered spells so you can't do all of em while raged.
    That and the animation of Cutting Jibes and Intimidate is to long, if not I would have used it more often.

    And what's up with Slaughter, seems to be broken or something?

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    Are you still planning on heavy armor? ASF is going to be murder to overcome I've only done this by using Drow/Elf, an augment and Core 2 of Eldritch Knight).

    If you are...I'd personally drop the dodge/mobility/spring attack line for PA, Cleave, and Great Cleave (actually I just would have dropped them regardless of armor, but that's me). Since Precision doesn't work while raged (which I'm assuming you're all about the rage) you can swap that out for Extend (normally not a favorite of mine, but since you aren't looking for healing action, it's a quality of casting life thing).

    Though you will lose Thread the Needle but if Precision doesn't work, I'm not certain you're getting the benefit of it once you hit rage. (If anyone has tested this, please let me know if/how this works)

    You should see some increased DPS (resetting timers and what not for more hard hitting action and AOE combat with mob density is an added bonus) and get the rest of the feats you're looking for, granted you'll lost 7% dodge but you can make up for that with a dodge 10% item (no idea what you're planning for end game gear)


    Also why aren't you taking Action Boost: Doublestrike? 30% is nothing to sneeze at ^^


    As another note, WarChanter loves some Barbarian rage, if you re-look at the enhancements a bit I'd check into adding a little WC into the mix.

    If you weren't set on a few things...TWF, WarChanter, Kensai, Ravager might be a crazy thing...freeze 'em and break 'em of sorts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightBear View Post
    12 Barbarian, 7 Bard and 1 fighter Purple Dragon.
    You may wish to consider barb 12 / bard 4 / ftr 4 for your next go-round. Downsides are losing lvl 3 spells (Haste & Displacement); upsides are two extra feats and access to lvl 3/4 Vanguard abilities (the core for +10% shield bash, Stunning Shield, Follow up). Feats: Power Atk/CL/GC, SWF x3, SM+ISM, IC:whatever, Imp Shield Bash, Stunning Blow, OC. Enhancements: 36 APs in Ravager (Crit Rage, Blood Str), 14 APs into FB for Frenzy + Supreme Cleave, 13 APs into Vanguard (thru Follow Up), 11 APs in SB for Skirmisher, leaving 6 APs for tweaking.
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