Things we use to do when the game was hard- list

[Grailhawk]

Wait for groups to form because we needed crowd control and heals.

as much as i hate waiting for a party to form that was a much better game back then.

[Hendrik]

as much as i hate waiting for a party to form that was a much better game back then.

To bad we will never see that again.

[PermaBanned]

People used MyDDO to examine people's gear before letting them in the party.

Getting decked out in Korthos gear prior to logging off just to frack with ^those^ people

Building a stable of Alts for when the Raid group needed a:
• Healer/Buffer
• Crowd Controller/Buffer
• Bard to be all of the above ^^
• Tank
• Trapper

[SiliconScout]

I remember running an all Sorc Shroud on elite. It was amazing, and hard. Particularly because only 2 of them were toasters the rest were either human or (most of them) Drow. We came SOOOOOoo close to a wipe twice in that run. The first Harry beat down I managed to finish it off alone on my first life Drow Sorc and just barely.... Second near wipe was final battle, one toaster and another toon managed to finish it off and the blades were out.

It was a crazy crazy run that none of us thought would succeed given the PUG was first 12 sorcs and go. But we were willing to give it a try and good lord did it feel amazing to complete that one. I tell ya when you can't surround Harry and pin him down for an epic beat down it's chaos .. pure, unadulterated, unfiltered and glorious Chaos.



I will also chime in that when the game was hard we used to have to understand, truly understand, how to play the toon and how to use tactics to complete and I miss it...

I know probably a solid 2 dozen very good elite level players who were newbie friendly and could compete at a high level who left the game soon after MOTU because it wasn't really hard for anyone and tactics / strategy (thus risk) were gone. I managed to get a couple of them interested in coming back when I mentioned the Champions but with the recent nerf and near elimination of them ... well it's looking a lot less likely.... Back when the game was hard we had good players and great fun ... that is what I think I very much miss the most.

[phillymiket]

Getting decked out in Korthos gear prior to logging off just to frack with ^those^ people

Building a stable of Alts for when the Raid group needed a:
• Healer/Buffer
• Crowd Controller/Buffer
• Bard to be all of the above ^^
• Tank
• Trapper

Being able to easily build a stable of alts that could contribute an equal portion to a Raid.

If I leveled a 1st life caster back then, gave them a Superior Potency VI item and a single Green Steel and the rest whatever other trash gear I randomly pulled, I felt I was on par and not sub-standard. I was a "good" toon back then.

That same character today would be hopelessly, hilariously outgunned by the rest of the party.

[dunklezhan]

Ok I'll start.

When the party wiped one toon would stay in while the others ressurected, buffed at airships and came back in fresh.
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lol@ship buffs

[EllisDee37]

For me personally, I learned quests by soloing on normal before grouping for them on hard or elite.

[Kronik]

Ask the group if they had any Guildies on who could come help!

Die and drop group cause I was embarrassed...oh wait...I mean I know a guy who used to do that.

[Qezuzu]

Meat walls. That was pretty much the only way to manage the end fight of epic OOB.

[Qhualor]

you played the game because it was fun.

N/N/N/N/N/N/N/H/E

unpopular quests today were played back then.

full 6 man group running normal.

wipes in raids actually happened maybe 1/3 the time on normal. elite? forget about it.

trade channel in the MP and Harbor was active.

casters controlled the epic scroll market.

one hit wonders /declined

groups wouldn't accept or didn't like more than 1 weak class - Rogue, Ranger

"healers wanted"

caster dc checks before being accepted in epic groups

you needed different weapons for different mobs and not the all purpose weapons like today

it was possible to actually wipe in a quest on normal

[boldarblood]

Ok I'll start.

When the party wiped one toon would stay in while the others ressurected, buffed at airships and came back in fresh.

go back further, remove the airship....

invaders elite, no airship, experience point lost every death... then spamming it for tokens, red bars to negative levels.

Other stuff...

- using cloud kill scrolls through bars in maze of madness.
- shield blocking at a door - so the caster can drop a firewall

[The_Human_Cypher]

People used MyDDO to examine people's gear before letting them in the party.

I remember that! MyDDO was never up to date, however.

[Ralmeth]

Here's my list:
1) Waited for a full group before starting most quests, including making sure you had specific roles filled such as healers, trappers, tanks, etc.
2) Spent a lot of time building and gearing up a Paladin tank, able to tank raid bosses (ToD, HoX, VoD, etc)
3) Cursed under my breath at the PL & random Warforged that joined my VoD group, who was assigned tanking duties

[dredre9987]

Giant cave in Threnal loot runs

[Oxarhamar]

Ok I'll start.

When the party wiped one toon would stay in while the others ressurected, buffed at airships and came back in fresh.



Since some of you are new or might have forgot this is before flavor toons ruled and everyone could do everything. Before difficulty streaks were so important and they ruined most of the raid gear with too much auction house power creep. When Bloodstones were awed at and most raids upto TOD were run on a regular basis. Before heroic was gimped in favor of epic content making 2/3rds of the game a ghost town. When parties needed a healer and waited forever for one to show up. When soloing and short manning was the exception instead of the norm.

Sorry mate, the game was not hard at the time of airships.

[boldarblood]

Giant cave in Threnal loot runs

co6 loot runs - mephit chest and end chest
caverns of kormar loot runs
threnal south 3 loot runs
black anvil mine loot runs
invader tokens loot runs
troll ring loot runs at red willow

[Oxarhamar]

you played the game because it was fun.

N/N/N/N/N/N/N/H/E

unpopular quests today were played back then.

full 6 man group running normal.

wipes in raids actually happened maybe 1/3 the time on normal. elite? forget about it.

trade channel in the MP and Harbor was active.

casters controlled the epic scroll market.

one hit wonders /declined

groups wouldn't accept or didn't like more than 1 weak class - Rogue, Ranger

"healers wanted"

caster dc checks before being accepted in epic groups

you needed different weapons for different mobs and not the all purpose weapons like today

it was possible to actually wipe in a quest on normal

Or we ran EEEEEEHN 2 man or 3 man for more XP with weekly Heroic Elite Saturday Raids & Epic Sundays but, guess that's dependent on what guild you belonged to.

If you were pugging yeah good luck in normal.

[phillymiket]

Clickies!

Remember clickies? omg! I HATED carrying clickies for everything because I was too broke for pots.

I used to have a hotbar filled with just with Korthos Cure Lt./Aid clickies for the 1st 6 levels plus cure poison/curse etc. I'd farm Korthos for that ****.

On the the subject of pots, remember carrying a Resist 20 pot for every single element?

Or when a real downside for playing melee was enemy Magic Missiles and a lv 10 Shield Wand with 28 charges was some real good loots?

Or when everyone wore the same thing? The Minos look, The Dragontouch PJ look The Mitheral Armor look... and well that's about it. Every party looked like a Broadway Dancing Troupe with matching outfits.

Waiting in the Sub to Taxi people to Meridia?

When Cleric Buffs other than FoM/DW actually did something? (recitation before traps etc)

How about the "Ooooh Kayy <sigh>..." a raid leader would always start off with as soon as the party was filled when he or she was about to give their well rehearsed speech explaining the Raid and how it will work.

New York Laces. Remember those? Big, fat and brightly colored. Back when nobody tied their shoes instead of showing everyone their underwear like today?

[porkchorp]

Not be able to trip giants with a 10str sorcerer.

Oh wait, that was only a couple of days ago...

[fluffi]

When a raid group would gather and people would swap to their healer as none joined. Now everyone just uses cocoon, or DC or can self-heal (like PM's)

Sending tells (respectful wording) to healers that weren't in groups seeing if they wanted to run a raid.

Letting the healer choose the difficulty level of the quest

Having a 1 pot buy-in to run VoD. Every melee wanted them goggles, but no healers wanted to run it as no decent loot and always took pots, esp when orthan spawned right at the end.