Remove Dungeon Alert from the game

[Inoukchuk]

Agree.

Belly of the Beast is another one. Ran it last night on EE and in the arena fight as soon as the spectators feel in DA ramped up to orange and I was instantly harried. Some of these quests really need to be revisited and have the numbers tweaked. You should never get DA by running the quest as intended.

Unless maybe the intent is that you are harried (in both game terms and non-game terms) by crazy #s of monsters?

[Braegan]

Unless maybe the intent is that you are harried (in both game terms and non-game terms) by crazy #s of monsters?

That would be a rather lame intent, wouldn't you agree?

[Inoukchuk]

That would be a rather lame intent, wouldn't you agree?

Not necessarily, it has a rather cinematic effect in concept even if the effect is more just annoying and frustrating in implementation. I agree that I dislike getting harried just for spawning a fresh wave of bad guys with nothing else going on.

[JOTMON]

Again, it absolutely reduced the lag hugely on all the servers. The difference was tremendous, and no longer does it take fifteen minutes to get across the harbor EVERY SINGLE TIME I go there since the day they implemented that. That is a huge help to this game and I'm sorry if you don't understand that.

I understand it just fine, but that doesn't excuse a sloppy implementation of dungeon alert that occurs in DDO programmed mob wave spawns, or instance wide DA when a rogue player has created DA due to his own error.
~besides, if you upgraded from that Commodore 64 and dialup internet, you would have less issues.

[psykopeta]

That would be a rather lame intent, wouldn't you agree?

iirc that's called "fake difficulty"

ddo is based on that kind of challenge, cause the day brains were on sale, turbine was at home

[phillymiket]

Belly of the Beast is another one. Ran it last night on EE and in the arena fight as soon as the spectators feel in DA ramped up to orange and I was instantly harried. Some of these quests really need to be revisited and have the numbers tweaked. You should never get DA by running the quest as intended.

I'd go further and say the quest needs to be "visited" by the Devs not revisited.

I get some older content not jibing with DA but the new stuff?

DA existed when they made that encounter. How did they not notice it is borked?

Unless maybe the intent is that you are harried (in both game terms and non-game terms) by crazy #s of monsters?

Well I think that is an annoying misuse for the Dungeon Alert system.

That thing was put in to annoy us so much we stop and kill for the sake of game performance.

The devs just throwing DA around in lieu of a proper encounter challenge seems pretty lame and, again, annoying.

[TrinityTurtle]

I understand it just fine, but that doesn't excuse a sloppy implementation of dungeon alert that occurs in DDO programmed mob wave spawns, or instance wide DA when a rogue player has created DA due to his own error.
~besides, if you upgraded from that Commodore 64 and dialup internet, you would have less issues.

And now you look ridiculous making baselss assumptions to support a poor point, I have a fiber optic connection. I was the first in my area to start using cable when it was available, until Time Warner bought my company and made it stupidly unstable. My computer is a high end gaming rig. And as I said, I haven't had lag since then. If you're still getting it, might want to look at your own computer and connection there.

[TrinityTurtle]

I'd go further and say the quest needs to be "visited" by the Devs not revisited.

I get some older content not jibing with DA but the new stuff?

DA existed when they made that encounter. How did they not notice it is borked?

I suspicion it makes more sense that the newer stuff is what is causing the problem. Dungeon assault coding was written years ago with a different dev team, it's possible there is a numeric 'top out' or some other coding quirk that triggers it in the old code, and with the bigger battles they are designing now they are probably getting bitten by something someone else wrote half a decade ago. And depending on how convoluting the programming code is, maybe not all that easy to find. Equally possible they have just been lazy about updating DA.

[JOTMON]

And now you look ridiculous making baselss assumptions to support a poor point, I have a fiber optic connection. I was the first in my area to start using cable when it was available, until Time Warner bought my company and made it stupidly unstable. My computer is a high end gaming rig. And as I said, I haven't had lag since then. If you're still getting it, might want to look at your own computer and connection there.

I don't have problems with lag I have an issue with DA.
You were the one complaining about lag and 15 minutes to get through the harbour and how DA was supposed fix server wide lag.

besides. I wasn't making any assumptions to contradictt your superior gaming system and glorious fiber internet.. just lightening the mood with some humor.. that you obviously didn't get..
The Commodore 64 was a 1980's pre PC system and was well outdated before the internet was even available... It wasn't ever capable of being used on the internet except by some after market hack.

[Sehenry03]

That was my recollection as well.

Devs did two things to combat the lag at that time, TWF nerf and DA.

The DA seemed to have an effect. TWF was the one that people questioned the efficacy of, iirc.

I suspect if the Devs turned off DA and everyone ran through a quest w/o killing anything, with the game as it is now, the servers would just freeze and then explode taking out half of Massachusetts.

Better to not risk it.

What about the hamsters?!?!?! Why doesn't anyone care about the hamsters running the servers!?!?!

[dunklezhan]

I'd go further and say the quest needs to be "visited" by the Devs not revisited.

I get some older content not jibing with DA but the new stuff?

DA existed when they made that encounter. How did they not notice it is borked?

This. DA in Belly of the Beast is silly, and unfun.

[fmalfeas]

What about the hamsters?!?!?! Why doesn't anyone care about the hamsters running the servers!?!?!

Because they forget the sound that comes when you mistreat a hamster...

BUTT-KICKING FOR GOODNESS!!!