Monster Champion Feedback

[harry-pancreas]

I am a player that has 6 accounts, me, my wife, and 4 kids. from this last update my kids have stopped playing because its not fun. i have always refused to play anything but elite because i hate playing same dungeon like 10 times in a row to raise levels. Bravery Bonus keeps me from replaying dungeons. my kids don't like playing with me because they don't like being soul stones and pulled around to shrines. I won't break my BB like so many others.

They used their Christmas funds to pay for a years time on elder scrolls online. Just in my relatives that stopped playing because your latest updates of lets make it more difficult for the top 10%, is 7 people. All of who spend money every month.

Brilliant move catering to the 10%.

I am frustrated because I am to strong for normal to play with kids they just run through very luck to kill something because im 1-2 hit killing things, or they are in my back pack as soul stones in elites. before update elite was still easy for me but the kids got big kicks out of kill count because most of the time i slowed down just slow enough for them to get the last killing blow in, or i went from monster 1 hit them a few times went to monster 2 hit a few times went to monster 3 and so on so the kids always had the killing blows.

I use to play 2 quests a night every night. their 9th life TR toons going to just sit there now and by the way their ages are 5, 6, 8, and 10.

As for me and my monthly spending,I will probably be signing off also and switching games to follow suit after my kids

great job making the game for ubers.

are you really whining because you don't want to make a gimp so you can play with your kids ?
lols.

[harry-pancreas]

How many people in the last week have been TRULY 1 shotted?

my gimp 10PRR / 9% dodge wizard plays EH and EE and she told me this: "if they're getting 1 shotted in EH, they're gimps"

[ame132]

I'd guess no. those spider princes are tough. No where near as difficult as they were back in the day, but still above the norm for the level. They still rock 600+ HP on Elite, so if one got crowned, 2k+ would totally be in the range.

they have 277 hp, not 600+

[Ametrine]

definitely adds some fun to the game. Zerging=boring

ran EE madstone the other day and a champion skeleton takes out half the group in one swing, it was hilariously funny

[Impaqt]

they have 277 hp, not 600+

I'll have to check into that. If it is 277->2K+ then that would be a bug according to the devs. You should report it. But I could of sworn the Princes had a lot more than 277.

[Monkey-Boy]

Just finished a Heroic life on a zillion PL light-armor melee.

At no time was a champion any more than a speed-bump for me. Never died of even came close.

But the pugs in my groups . . . LOLz. The champions have made this game a pug snuff-film. Dropping like flies in nearly every quest.

So if Turbine's plan was to slow down vets a tiny bit while causing n00bs to die a hell of a lot with cheap hits I'd say everything is WAI.

[Jomee]

DDO will never be challenging enough for the top 10% of the players or easy enough for the bottom 10%, but it's the other 80% that matter and they keep the game making money. The game has to be made balanced and fun for the 80%. Why not just get rid of ship buffs, overpowered loot and destinies to keep the game challenging for yourselves? Makes no sense to cry for a challenge, get one then cry for better enhancements and loot to compensate as been done in the past.

[phillymiket]

Just finished a Heroic life on a zillion PL light-armor melee.

At no time was a champion any more than a speed-bump for me. Never died of even came close.

But the pugs in my groups . . . LOLz. The champions have made this game a pug snuff-film. Dropping like flies in nearly every quest.

So if Turbine's plan was to slow down vets a tiny bit while causing n00bs to die a hell of a lot with cheap hits I'd say everything is WAI.

My experiences as well.

Simply a slight delay for me but some new people are floor mops at times.

I think that's part of the reason why some Vets like them even though they couldn't possibly be really challenged by them.

[Monkey-Boy]

I think that's part of the reason why some Vets like them even though they couldn't possibly be really challenged by them.

I'm more of a "vet" than 99% of the posters, and I think the champions are the dumbest thing in DDO since Ghostbane.

If elite got too easy scale everything upwards. And don't' touch heroics.

[slarden]

definitely adds some fun to the game. Zerging=boring

ran EE madstone the other day and a champion skeleton takes out half the group in one swing, it was hilariously funny

Another example of one-shotting. Thank you - the devs are interested in this.

[slarden]

DDO will never be challenging enough for the top 10% of the players or easy enough for the bottom 10%, but it's the other 80% that matter and they keep the game making money. The game has to be made balanced and fun for the 80%. Why not just get rid of ship buffs, overpowered loot and destinies to keep the game challenging for yourselves? Makes no sense to cry for a challenge, get one then cry for better enhancements and loot to compensate as been done in the past.

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Truth

[Cardoor]

I hate the monster champion mechanic more than I have ever hated anything in DDO.

[Qhualor]

Another example of one-shotting. Thank you - the devs are interested in this.

not much of an example when those same skeles before Champions were one shotting me on EE. that's what happens when you are just doing past lives and not trying to properly invest in defense or go with the flow of the fast pace of the group you are in using more brawn than brain.

[count_spicoli]

Just finished a Heroic life on a zillion PL light-armor melee.

At no time was a champion any more than a speed-bump for me. Never died of even came close.

But the pugs in my groups . . . LOLz. The champions have made this game a pug snuff-film. Dropping like flies in nearly every quest.

So if Turbine's plan was to slow down vets a tiny bit while causing n00bs to die a hell of a lot with cheap hits I'd say everything is WAI.

Ha ha what? Ive pug all the time and have hardly been in any groups that have died from champs since the nerf. Just the same old zerg blasts with everyone doing their own thing. Snooze fest. Where are all these really bad players that are whining all the time?

[Sehenry03]

Ha ha what? Ive pug all the time and have hardly been in any groups that have died from champs since the nerf. Just the same old zerg blasts with everyone doing their own thing. Snooze fest. Where are all these really bad players that are whining all the time?

This!!

I just TR'ed Mheka into a rogue/fighter currently and I did all the Korthos and lvl 2 quests on elite. I had a couple low hp's toons join but not sure if they were new or not but neither were TR's and the only death was the bard who went straight to the named ogre in Butchers Path and got 1 shotted =) (and he apologized over and over why do people feel they have to apologize for dying??? Are people really THAT pathetic that a loss of 10% makes them belittle others that die???)

[Qhualor]

This!!

I just TR'ed Mheka into a rogue/fighter currently and I did all the Korthos and lvl 2 quests on elite. I had a couple low hp's toons join but not sure if they were new or not but neither were TR's and the only death was the bard who went straight to the named ogre in Butchers Path and got 1 shotted =) (and he apologized over and over why do people feel they have to apologize for dying??? Are people really THAT pathetic that a loss of 10% makes them belittle others that die???)

embarrassment perhaps?

a veteran playing a new toon still feeling the power from his other geared out characters and remembers the old days of people getting upset for not getting the 10% precious bonus?

I still hear apologies too, but 95% of the time I don't hear anyone getting upset over a death or caring about it. we are mostly done with all that rage over a death drama now.

[Braegan]

Where are all these really bad players that are whining all the time?

Mostly just on the forums.

[Hershaw]

I've been playing for a couple of years now and I'm on my 13th life, a bard/rogue basic sub-optimal build. Now, when I'm leveling, there's actually a chaince I could die on HE. Soloing is no longer automatic.
I love this new change. Don't need any more loot or xp, there's enough of that. The added difficulty is great!

[General_Gronker]

I don't mean anything condescending about this question

Wouldn't know that from reading your post.

[MisterCanoeHead]

I'll have to check into that. If it is 277->2K+ then that would be a bug according to the devs. You should report it. But I could of sworn the Princes had a lot more than 277.

Ran Tangleroot HE last night, the 2 brown spiders had 137 and the Black Widow had 187. >2000 HP is way beyond excessive.