make Normal the New Casual

[CrackedIce]

Please move Heroic difficulties down one notch. Casual is the old normal, Normal is the old hard, Hard is the old epic and make Epic difficulty for heroics a harder difficulty.

As it stands no one runs casual. Make the new hard difficulty available to premium accounts and the new epic locked for VIP. So VIP still get the perks of opening on elite for their
streaks.

In short, the major changes recently made each difficulty setting easier than it had been. And f2p and premium currently have to play in easy normal to unlock the higher difficulties. Normal has become soloable for a newbie when it used to provide some sense of accomplishment. That is what casual is supposed to be.

[janave]

Well, playing casual is extremely penalizing, but is good for those who dont care to wear proper gear and just wanna look around in the different areas. Its use is super marginal.


Id say compress into 2 difficulties.

1. Basic mode (about as difficult as the current hard setting, dungeon scaling is on, dungeon altert is more forgiving)
2. Challenge mode (about 50-80% harder to current elites, due to no scaling soloing is much more risky, mobs get +10% all alacrity, +25% PRR-DR, +25% MRR, when they have a special feature like SR - its amped up.)

On Challenge mode, enemies get 3-6-9% immunity/evasion/dodge/fort bypass/deathward - if orange/red/purple named + stacking with their own if they have any as a feature ability.

EXP and Loot drop rates for doing Challenge mode is +50%.

[the_one_dwarfforged]

noobs need to be able to solo.

few lfms + those lfms mostly tr zerg = bad new player experience regardless of what they are looking for in the game. at least if they solo and still stick around theyve adapted to the culture.

but if they ever address this kind of issue, you know theyre just going to ghostbane it.

[rehakp]

I would say new difficulty harder and more ravarding than current elite would not hurt anybody because heroic elite content is soloable with some exceptions for any DDO veteran. But i would be carefull about discarding cuurrent easymode difficulties whitch probably no veteran opened for months maybe years on heroic life. There still could be new players not familiar with game or DnD system and for those making mistakes in char build is extremely punishing. If new player playing rogue for example gimp some traping skills (not that hard for newbie) then its not funny to see those crossclass immortall 30th life veteran druids that can tank,dps,heal and trap better than 5 those other noobz combined together. When you realize you even as pure rogue (gimp) are unable to even search for traps because of game difficulty is set too high for you. If you add some lagzzzzzz experience where 1 rat just wipe your party on lowlvl content you surely get very very dissapointed new player and probably soon quiter. So i suggest leave the nooby setting there .. maybe 99% of us never use it .... but somone would be happy for it. I vould suggest better addind new veteran difficulty. But still better to focus on fixing lags. Because lagzzz are now way more powerfull than any EE content.

[Powskier]

just put up a tougher diff for those who want it;why complicate the process...besides the new norm ,may mean we end up like a final fantasy with every enemy havin 10k hit points in heroic.

[walkin_dude]

just put up a tougher diff for those who want it;why complicate the process...besides the new norm ,may mean we end up like a final fantasy with every enemy havin 10k hit points in heroic.

A case could be made that adding on a fifth difficulty rating qualifies as "complicating the process."

I say just re-tool the difficulties we have.

[Seikojin]

Please move Heroic difficulties down one notch. Casual is the old normal, Normal is the old hard, Hard is the old epic and make Epic difficulty for heroics a harder difficulty.

As it stands no one runs casual. Make the new hard difficulty available to premium accounts and the new epic locked for VIP. So VIP still get the perks of opening on elite for their
streaks.

In short, the major changes recently made each difficulty setting easier than it had been. And f2p and premium currently have to play in easy normal to unlock the higher difficulties. Normal has become soloable for a newbie when it used to provide some sense of accomplishment. That is what casual is supposed to be.

Revist this a year after lvl 30 is the cap.

[vengfarga]

As it stands no one runs casual.

No one, huh?
Ok, me 'n a couple of my buddies in our little RL friends guild wouldn't even look at anything below HE or EH, with EE a preference. But we have a couple of pals who are still ftp or 'premium', but barely. For these guys, solo casual is still not a cake walk for some quests. They don't have gear, they don't have knowledge about the game and they don't have experience of what works, where.
OK, they haven't contributed much to the game financially, but they've kept me and others who have from getting bored or feeling obligated to go do something else.
I'm pretty sure there are plenty like them. And plenty of newer players who feel the same. And plenty of experienced players who play for fun rather than challenge.
Why should they have the game made harder? It alienates some player groups whilst making zero difference to anyone else.

[waryJerry]

This game has so many people in it who assume that because they do things a certain way, everyone else must be doing the same. Then they complain that there are no new players.

[bruener]

[QUOTE=CrackedIce;5486693]Please move Heroic difficulties down one notch. Casual is the old normal, Normal is the old hard, Hard is the old epic and make Epic difficulty for heroics a harder difficulty.

As it stands no one runs casual. Make the new hard difficulty available to premium accounts and the new epic locked for VIP. So VIP still get the perks of opening on elite for their
streaks.

In short, the major changes recently made each difficulty setting easier than it had been. And f2p and premium currently have to play in easy normal to unlock the higher difficulties. Normal has become soloable for a newbie when it used to provide some sense of accomplishment. That is what casual is supposed to

[hunzi2010]

I am sorry of this is going to come across negative.
are you vip?
Is your complaint about the dungeon being too easy or the fact that your (apologies I had to scrub this out) unable to open elite on a new toon due to being free to play or premium?
i havent been posting much on the forums of late due to being very busy at work. but from what I can read here its always the same issues.
make this harder cos im uber and its too easy.
or
make this so i dont have to pay money cos im a T&%$@ A%$.
I pay a monthly subscription to this game, and buy all the new expansions, and i am guessing with what I have brought over the years i could probably dump my membership and still be able to play everything for free.
My apologies guys, but I believe that if you enjoy something then support it. I pay my 10.00 per month to support this game so that it can stay alive.
im probably getting off the original topic here, but just saying. most of the posts are about this scenario....

Here is an idea, is there a way to put next to the avatar the account type, if its free or vip.
i guess then you would know who to take notice of and who not to.

Thanks guys and sorry about the rant.