Trying the Harper Tree

[FifthTime]

Warforged does not like...warforged says need work.

[UurlockYgmeov]

Warforged does not like...warforged says need work.

so what does third person warforged believe could be improved? Specific examples kindly.

[FifthTime]

Warforge doesn't need to make points...Just like Kobold, Warforge just taunts people.

[UurlockYgmeov]

Warforge doesn't need to make points...Just like Kobold, Warforge just taunts people.

*sigh*

*Kobold goes back to polishing shineys taken from third person warforged... *

[burningwind]

i wouldn't get t5 harper is i were you.. fighter t5 could be slightly better since you are melee focus.. EK t5 would be great as well.. if you planning on using ek ability.. the toggle is great give you full bab and some bonus

p.s. extend spell is nice.. but not that important imo

edit: i would go EK and kensei tree.. Kensei mage dual- been popular since baldur's gate XD As of AM SLA those buff you do not cast very often.. getting them seem to be a bit of waste.. especially invisible you could get away with clickie.. blur you can scroll (5 min) or find a equipment with perm blur~~~.. displacement you might consider memorize it .

[knockcocker]

After recently returning to the game, the Harper tree was completely new to me (as was MP and MRR).

I thought about re-visiting the Juggernaut (16 Art/ 2 Mon /2 Pal or Rgr) as I think there is a lot of synergy
there. I generally enjoy playing builds which have a lot of utility with a good mix between complexity
and button mashing.

[Totallynotsmurf]

Lol this reminds me of my earlier days when I would go barbarian wizard haha

[scipiojedi]

lol this reminds me of my earlier days when i would go barbarian wizard haha

do ittttt!

[UurlockYgmeov]

Lol this reminds me of my earlier days when I would go barbarian wizard haha

*chuckle*

do ittttt!

This is a great tree - that makes many 'unusual' builds possible.

[Memnir]

Been eyeballing the Harper tree for a while now, but just can't come up with a build to utilize it that I enjoy. Might give this a whirl... or I might keep trying to figure out an Int based Harper Barbarian Gnome. I know it'll be weird as hell, and likely won't work at all... but dammit I want one.

[UurlockYgmeov]

Been eyeballing the Harper tree for a while now, but just can't come up with a build to utilize it that I enjoy. Might give this a whirl... or I might keep trying to figure out an Int based Harper Barbarian Gnome. I know it'll be weird as hell, and likely won't work at all... but dammit I want one.

maybe this will help (its been a while since played with this style... went THF - but easily change to TWF or Bludgeoning etc):

lots of self healing
will need SP item (con-op awesome for this build) to use Know the Angles
Remember guild potions work while raged
Black Dragon Armor...
Permablurred - (and stoneskin if doing deep gnome)
Should be LOTS of DPS....



Barb Gnome (int)
Barbarian 20
True Neutral Gnome

Stats
. . . . . . . .28pt. . .36pt . . Tome . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .----. . .---- . . ---- . . --------
Strength. . . . 12 . . . 13. . . .+4. . . .4: INT
Dexterity . . . 10 . . . 10. . . . . . . . 8: INT
Constitution. . 16 . . . 16. . . . . . . .12: INT
Intelligence. . 18 . . . 20. . . . . . . .16: INT
Wisdom. . . . . .8 . . . .8. . . . . . . .20: INT
Charisma. . . . .8 . . . .8. . . . . . . .24: INT
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28: INT

Skills
. . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
Intim . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Jump. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Swim. . . . . . . . . . . . . .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .2 .2 .2 .2 .7 .23
Heal. . . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
Bluff . . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
Diplo . . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
Balance . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
Tumble. . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
Haggle. . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
UMD . . . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
Spot. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1 . 1
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . .36. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 11 11 11 11 11

Feats
.1. . . . : Power Attack
.3. . . . : Cleave
.6. . . . : Great Cleave
.9. . . . : Improved Critical: Slashing
12. . . . : Two Handed Fighting
15. . . . : Improved Two Handed Fighting
18. . . . : Greater Two Handed Fighting
21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic . : Stunning Blow
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
27 Epic . :
28 Destiny:
29 Destiny:
30 Epic . :
30 Legend :

Enhancements (71 of 80 AP)
Ravager (42 AP)

• Furious Rage, Pain Touch, Demoralizing Success, Pain Touch II
  
  1. Ritual Scarring III, Hate III, Do You Like Pain? III, Barbarian Power Attack III, Hardy Rage III
  2. I Like Pain III, Melee Power Boost III
  3. Slaughter III
  4. I Hit Back! III
  5. Blood Strength, Bully III, Uncanny Balance, Critical Rage II

Harper Agent (22 AP)

• Agent of Good I, Intelligence, Agent of Good II
  
  1. Harper Enchantment, Strategic Combat
  2. Magical Endurance II, Versatile Adept III, Know the Angles III
  3. Strategic Combat, Intelligence
  4. Intelligence

Gnome (7 AP)

• Gnomish Perserverance, Intelligence, Gnomish Perserverance II, Intelligence II
  
  1. (none)
  2. Permanent Blur

[Memnir]

maybe this will help

Actually, this is pretty close to what I had in my head.
Not sure if it's gonna pan out or not - but looks fun enough to try. Next time I log in, gonna roll this up & see what happens.

[UurlockYgmeov]

Actually, this is pretty close to what I had in my head.
Not sure if it's gonna pan out or not - but looks fun enough to try. Next time I log in, gonna roll this up & see what happens.

just did a quicky build - and did base gnome instead of snirffy...

Yes, please do tell me how it works!

[Memnir]

please do tell me how it works!

It worked, but wasn't as fun as I hoped. Also, the Int focus I could seen would be limiting down the road. So, I rerolled as a melee Artificer/Harper - and that is proving to be just splendid.

[UurlockYgmeov]

It worked, but wasn't as fun as I hoped. Also, the Int focus I could seen would be limiting down the road. So, I rerolled as a melee Artificer/Harper - and that is proving to be just splendid.

was concerned about his - for heroics would be just fine. Think your reroll is a good choice!