Update 24: Hall of Heroes

[Zavier]

Asking nicely over and over for turbine to work on things such as monster manuals or cannith crafting or reversing the butchery of random gen loot (frostproof of Listening 20) or providing an endgame has not worked. no one has asked hundreds of times for the hero halls to get improvements have they?

seems to me that logically if people never say anything about whats clearly a waste of time for fear of offending you guys, that you'll keep right on wasting time on things that arenot necessarilly needed. With so many things that could be recieving attention that players beg for over and over for years it often seems like tubines priorities are not well directed. hundreds beg for cannith crafting improvements but we get prettyier ship amenetys, hundreds ask for big random dungeons but we get air ship combat, hundreds ask for a real endgame but we get level 25 packs.

sometimes unwanted criticism is valid criticism

one things is of a certainty begging has not worked, but yet here we are trying to tell you there are better uses of manhours. hundreds of requests for the old costmetic kits to be put back into the store using the new cosmetic slot form factor have gone unheeded. No one asked for pretty new ship buff stations down below desks where almost no one ever goes, but a lot of people have asked for improvements to the old epic shard and seal system. No one asked for an three barrel cove pack to be made epic and then not even added to end game, we asked for Shroud a whole lot though. All that work on three barrel cove seems like a waste, lots of players said so. giant hold quests are way more popular still probably 10 to 1 more groups, seems we were right?

From out here it seems like we should probably be more critical not less. ghostbane at least got you guys to partially undo the wreckage even if it took a mob of angry players. yeah it took a lot of people being pretty unkind to turbine about their priorities to get them to budge on that issue. so yeah it looks a lot more likely to get something done than polite requests.

I couldn't agree more.

It is so disappointing the direction this game has turned since MoTU. The death of raiding and endgame. The egregious power creep which each new update. For the experienced gamer flush with meta game knowledge and years of gathering gear, there is nothing left to do but quit. There isn't any challenge.

The hue and cry for things we would like to see from Turbine somehow gets lost or ignored or silenced into oblivion. Instead, we get useless stuff like HoH. Just so nobody can be confused Steelstar, this little effort is just putting lipstick on the pig ( too bad this sow cant be processed into something useful like BACON!)

Turbine, you have casualized the game to death. And I am your newest casualty. After all these years, I thought the big delete was going to hurt. Yet, it was painless. U24 and even ToEE couldn't tempt me to change my mind.

[Atremus]

Steel;

Will there be a guild vendor in the Halls? Also what are the chances of adding the Hall to teleport locations?

[Hoglum]

Make an arena in the middle where you can select monsters from a menu to fight and practice. Also, can you make the barrels breakable?

[Loromir]

Make an arena in the middle where you can select monsters from a menu to fight and practice. Also, can you make the barrels breakable?

I like this idea. I good way to test DPS.

[macadope]

All I want to know is how do i get MY statue in there.

[Krelar]

All I want to know is how do i get MY statue in there.

Coming Soon™ to the DDO store, only 1 million Turbine Points!

[MangLord]

My "cool idea" would be that if you purchased or otherwise have access to the Hall of Heroes, you could use the Guild Ship farshifter to send you to the Eveningstar Hall, thus having a teleport directly to FR content without having to use your key or walk through the Harbor portal. I'm honestly amazed at how cumbersome it still is to get to FR after all this time. It should have been a simple ship teleport ages ago.

[Impaqt]

The Hall of Hereos is far too large to be considered a convenience. In order to make these changes worthwhile, Please make the points of entry and transaction EASY and quick to get to and around. Leave the big open spaces their own place. Let folks explore if they want to, but please dont force me to run around all over the place to use the amenities. That complete defeats the point.

If the hold back on the Eberron portal to FR is WotC based, I'd be fine with providing the portal only after its ope via underdark completion. Or at leave give us a portal to the cavern.. Eberron side...

[Ancient]

You guys just keep killing what little immersion there is destroying game lore bit by bit

If immersion equals wasting time, then killing it is a good thing.

[Hobgoblin]

All I want to know is how do i get MY statue in there.

You have to be good first.

[Saekee]

All I want to know is how do i get MY statue in there.

yes--some suggestions earlier in the thread about ultimate completionists getting a statue. I mean--c'mon--how many times have they saved Stormreach?

[cdbd3rd]

...We'd received some feedback that the Hall was not viewed as generally useful; not enough resources (vendors, etc), and what was there was... well, really far apart. ...

Very much that^^.

I'm soul bound in ES, and when I want to hop over from Eb side, I do the old /death-teleport routine rather than run thru there, even from the relog transfer. This is an excellent QoL change.


(Luckily, our teleports & such work the other direction. Please never change that.)

[cdbd3rd]

All I want to know is how do i get MY statue in there.

Coming Soon™ to the DDO store, only 1 million Turbine Points!

Hmmm...

Ya know, I'd be okay with an extra room off to the side where they sell statue options like that. I mean, anyone who *really* wanted to support the game with that kind of 'donation'... Yeah. No game buffs, no game benefits whatsoever - just a statue with their character name/likeness on a pedestal.

*Grabs calculator*

Best non-bonus point buy is 23,000 for 199.99. That maths out to just over $8,695. (I thought it'd be more than that )

In game statue for ~$8,695... So, shall I "Suggest" this, or add this idea to the "This Offends Me" thread?

[macadope]

yes--some suggestions earlier in the thread about ultimate completionists getting a statue. I mean--c'mon--how many times have they saved Stormreach?

yea i got the uber uber uber completionist thing done. i'm looking to immortalize myself now.

[LordKalkin]

I was away from the game when the Hall of Heroes was introduced. I've wandered around in there a couple of times, and then pretty quickly wandered back out. I was just more underwhelmed and confused than anything. What was it supposed to be for then? What is supposed to be for now? How are these changes going to make it more useful for that purpose?

What it is: a more painful way to TR, requiring you to unnecessarily traverse a long distance, compared to what we had in house J.

[dunklezhan]

This is easily the most requested feature for the Hall; your feedback is heard loud and clear. However, behind-the-scenes things have prevented us from adding something like this to the Hall of Heroes, as much as we'd like to. It's not something we can add for U24, but we'll be looking into it for the future, as it's something we know players want.

Thank you for the clarity Steelstar, I'll stop whining so strongly about this now.

*coughupdatecannithcraftingcough*

[CaptainSpacePony]

Hey, everyone!

As you may have seen in this weekend's release notes, for Update 24 we've made some changes to the two Hall of Heroes spaces:

We'd received some feedback that ... what was there was... well, really far apart. This change adds some new NPCs, changes the location of a few things and should make travelling around a little bit easier.

I've always wondered why the Hall's architects bothered with the whole "Time and Relative Dimension in Space" to get the whole "bigger on the inside" thing if they weren't going to use the space.

[Oxarhamar]

What it is: a more painful way to TR, requiring you to unnecessarily traverse a long distance, compared to what we had in house J.

I thought the retirement of Cruz from house J and the introduction of the Reincarnation Grove in the Hall of Heroes was completely unnessisary.

Also it was a really crummy way to force use of the Halls, I was happy to never enter the Halls ever until this change came about. Now I cant avoid it.

[Oxarhamar]

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[JOTMON]

Hey, everyone!

As you may have seen in this weekend's release notes, for Update 24 we've made some changes to the two Hall of Heroes spaces:





(In addition, Airship Captains will now take you to the Eberron Hall of Heroes as well).

Why the change?
We'd received some feedback that the Hall was not viewed as generally useful; not enough resources (vendors, etc), and what was there was... well, really far apart. This change adds some new NPCs, changes the location of a few things and should make travelling around a little bit easier.

Why are there two copies of certain things now?
Some people may like where the old NPC locations are, and (at least for U24) we don't have immediate plans to use that corner of the Hall.

It would be cool if the Hall had (Insert Cool Thing Here)!
Additional changes may not happen for U24, but if you have thoughts about things to add or ways to make this space better, or just want to tell us you like/don't like the new changes - please let us know!

Thank you , this has been something we have been waiting to see implemented.