U24 Heart of Madness Items

[psykopeta]

What can i say, if the quests are fun, good enough for me.
Personaly i wanted some kind wacky unique items bound to delirium.
The heroic packs have more fun things.
Quiver, wraps, clickie --- examples.
The one from the picture have nothing that i could say, now those item came from a delirium chain.
Personally id like more unique fun items then power creepd +20 of überness supreme of total anhilation items.
/my personal taste, might be different for other people tho

ummmmmm fun!!

and xp!!

and if possible, separate heroic completions from epic completions, so you can just do whatever quest you want to cap running quests once or grinding em on heroic and later on epic!

for gear matters... well, iirc the only thing i've run for gear was shroud, stopped me from tr'ing to hit 20 times to get the essence of cleansing, rest of stuff came with time, for the difference it makes, there's no point wasting time grinding it

[jalont]

My caster is parked at 28 at the entrance of Ascension Chamer for EE mods., doesn't need ETR's or TR's...she's done.

For lvl's 26 & 27 ill give that the new armor is better, but in no way should it be stated that it is better then completed shadowscale.


Signed

Concerned Citizen
(correcting other forumites wrongs)

And there's like 3 of you. For the vast majority of the playerbase, TRing is endgame, and it makes sense to design the game around those people. I'm not sure what else to say. Turbine knows where its bread and butter is, and it isn't players like you.

[Iriale]

EDIT: These items were given out by KookieKobold, who was kind enough to spawn an entire 20 or so batches of items from the chain. He left them on the floor of the Test Dojo. As such, I have every reason to believe that this is the entire item list.

what disappointing. A large pile of garbage.

The necklace is not bad, and the glasses are decent for a divine caster (not int or car? Extremely limited use item --- fewer people grinding it)

Little interest in this update. Too bad, a waste.

[blackdae]

And they are all Bound to Character :/

[WiseFreelancer]

Personal thoughts:

-The necklace seems reasonable for a meleeish item.

-Pleased to see a divine-focused orb, and 150 spellpower x2 is really nice on a one-handed item. The problem is, I really want to use the item, but can't see any reason to do so over Silver Librum. Yes, I get more radiance and divine spellpower than most other single items, but with a Lanturn's Ring + Librum will give me more, for example. The item needs something else to carry it for casters.

-Please don't change the Arcane Armor -> it might not be better than Shadowscale for a DC caster (although DC-wise you can almost certainly make it a wash), but for Int-based toons not interested in Wizard DCs its perfect. My (evasionist) harper melee build will love it. Not every item has to be built for a cookie-cutter build.

-The DC on the shield is decent for once - I don't have a shield toon so I'll leave overall comparisons to others, but this is what on-hit effects should look like in epic

-Docent seems solid (for a wizard or arti, at least) but kind of boring. There are too few docents with interesting effects

The rest I don't really care about so I'll omit my thoughts. But one thing really bugs me - its been ages since an update added a decent, useful cloak that grabs the eye (palemasters excepted I guess). When can they get some love?

[edrein]

Personal thoughts:

-Please don't change the Arcane Armor -> it might not be better than Shadowscale for a DC caster (although DC-wise you can almost certainly make it a wash), but for Int-based toons not interested in Wizard DCs its perfect. My (evasionist) harper melee build will love it. Not every item has to be built for a cookie-cutter build.

Leaving it light armor for the sake of evasion is built for cookie-cutter builds. In particular the 'pale-trapper' builds. Like I said, I think it'd be better off as medium armor and blanket the wider spectrum of melee wizards with additional PRR and MRR than creating just another light armor for evasion types.

[Livmo]

Because there is no endgame. Endgame is TRing. ML 28 items are absolutely useless, as 99 percent of the player base TRs as soon as they hit 28.

Never ever ina million years did I think that I could be part of the 1%!!!

Not only do I feel special (I really do), but I do loiter at 28

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This is post is not meant to be sarcastic. I wish more people wound hang at L28, or at least stay for 20 FoT or CiTW completions, or whatever measurement used to stick around for a while. Embrace 28.

[ToastyFred]

I like the Mythic Q-Staff and the Epic Tower Shield.

Very disappointed in the Rune Arm and the Docent (all versions).

[Scrabbler]

This pack definitely needs a weapon that's not a Quarterstaff. As a minimum, I suggest a super-crit Longsword with Wisdom and energy drain...

[LordTigerDawn]

3 Items I want:

Mythic Vim and Vigor
Mythic Arcane Armor
Mythic Bone Crusher

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Plz do not change the light armour to medium. I cannot swash with it then.

I do have 5 lvl 28 toons, that I use for playing EE quests. +1 toon that is on the TR hamster wheel. I expect this to be common.

Anyone that disagrees is obviously one of the players that plays 1 toon. Having multiple toons on the tr hamster wheel is painful. Everything gets clogged up at GH range.

[cru121]

Leaving it light armor for the sake of evasion is built for cookie-cutter builds. In particular the 'pale-trapper' builds. Like I said, I think it'd be better off as medium armor and blanket the wider spectrum of melee wizards with additional PRR and MRR than creating just another light armor for evasion types.

Last update brought medium and heavy armors, I guess that's why we're getting light and docent now.

This pack definitely needs a weapon that's not a Quarterstaff. As a minimum, I suggest a super-crit Longsword with Wisdom and energy drain...

Epic version of Watcher's Blade?


It would be nice if devs took a look at existing xoriat items and tweaked them a bit, added slots and extra (w) and stuff.

[Cetus]

I assume the googles will have 4 wisdom on mythic version.
So i wouldnt say utter garbage, it will be best in slot for druids fsouls and clerics, also arguable to slot it on monkchers.

I dont really know how that can be considerd trash.

Please teach to understand how that is trash.

Also staff is a nice upgrade for stick builds, depending on procs it might outperform sireth.
Again, depending what that "massive bludgeoning" is


There are more builds around then str based 2 handed weapon users cetus.
Keep that in mind

Keep what in mind? You're talking like this is my first day playing the game.

I kicked around a few mobs with that staff, thunderforged is still way better.

And quit assuming, unless I missed it right in front of me - I did not see a mythic version of the goggles in the dojo. If you found one, by all means let us see it.

These items simply are trash. The only item I see being used somewhat seriously is the Str11 necklace.

[ToastyFred]

TF are supposed to be better Cetus...they're ML 28. The Mythic Q-Staff from this update is ML 26.

[Aletys]

http://ddowiki.com/page/Tira%27s_Splendor

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the new Xoriat rune-arm is utter trash on heroic!

Nor much of a limb . Tira is much better, and is 3 levels lower (15). Did anyone even look at what already exists?

Also, there is a whole bunch of BTC stuff in there. That's a lot of raid gear, much of it uninspiring. If it's coming out of quests, it should be either unbound, or at the very least BTA. Preferably BTA on equip. There's already way too much BTC stuff in the game, & my toons personal banks are all overflowing (all first lifers).

[Krelar]

TF are supposed to be better Cetus...they're ML 28. The Mythic Q-Staff from this update is ML 26.

Tier 1 is only ML 24 and tier 2 is ML 26 he didn't specify which tier he was using. I suspect the ML 26 version will still be better (and doesn't require any raiding to get unlike the tier 3)

[Systern]

Keep what in mind? You're talking like this is my first day playing the game.

I kicked around a few mobs with that staff, thunderforged is still way better.

And quit assuming, unless I missed it right in front of me - I did not see a mythic version of the goggles in the dojo. If you found one, by all means let us see it.

These items simply are trash. The only item I see being used somewhat seriously is the Str11 necklace.

Thunderforged is raid loot. It's supposed to outclass it.

Forget TF, Shadowscale, MoD items.... Compare these items' power level to Druid's Deep, High Road, Halls, or GH loot (Not FoT).

Would you prefer a Stone Wall over Bastion or Purple Dragon Shield?
Is Bone Crusher better than Stoat Oak Walking Stick?
Is Resplendent Rune Arm better than Flicker (since at least Flicker has an Imbue :P)... It's definitely not better than Tira's Splendor.
Is Mythic Arcane Armor better than Whisper Chain?


This is the power level the items should be compared against. Not just "New Items must power creep moar"!!!


(But yea, all these except the necklace items are weak)

[Aletys]

Never ever ina million years did I think that I could be part of the 1%!!!

Not only do I feel special (I really do), but I do loiter at 28

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This is post is not meant to be sarcastic. I wish more people wound hang at L28, or at least stay for 20 FoT or CiTW completions, or whatever measurement used to stick around for a while. Embrace 28.

I've got several toons at L28, one of which has been there for a while (yes, farming Orchard, Deathwyrm & Fire Peaks like everyone else). While 20 FoT completions are worthwhile (the loot is good & falls at a decent rate, & heroic comms are guaranteed on each run), I personally will never bother with 20 CiTW completions. The raid is a pain & takes forever, the drop rates are abysmal, and I've seen many runs with no named loot or comms whatsoever. Further, with Thunder-forged weapons now available, the CiTW weapons are only good for one or two levels. I run it once on each toon for favor, then only if a friend really needs some help. MoD & the Thunderholme raids also have abysmal drop rates, but the loot is good enough on MoD & Deathwyrm to make them worth running 20 times.

[SquidMaster]

Am I the only one to notice that this mythic arcane armour gets max dex bonus of... 12?

Really, 12?

I might consider it for my EK/rogue acrobat or even for my assassin, but both got dodge on 20's, so as soon as I saw that...

never!

[Aletys]

Leaving it light armor for the sake of evasion is built for cookie-cutter builds. In particular the 'pale-trapper' builds. Like I said, I think it'd be better off as medium armor and blanket the wider spectrum of melee wizards with additional PRR and MRR than creating just another light armor for evasion types.

We got heavy & medium armors with U23, the light armor, robe & docent wearers got zip. There is no high level light armor in the game except the thunder-forged, and it does not work for everyone, and for some builds is not as good as the flawless dragonscale, which is a very good armor for level 25, but not for levels 27 & 28. We could definitely use some high level light armors, and robes & docents for that matter. And not just for wizards, but for the evasion types you seem so disdainful of. I also don't see why they can't provide both medium & light flavors on the armors, as well as robes & docents. They did in previous packs.

[Cetus]

TF are supposed to be better Cetus...they're ML 28. The Mythic Q-Staff from this update is ML 26.

Sigh...

Yes, TF is supposed to be better. However, this doesn't change the fact that it is simply a mediocre item. What's the point of actually going for the mythic version? So you can level from 26-28? Whoop tee doo.

Thunderforged is raid loot. It's supposed to outclass it.

Forget TF, Shadowscale, MoD items.... Compare these items' power level to Druid's Deep, High Road, Halls, or GH loot (Not FoT).

Yea, this is why releasing CR26 content is a doomed endeavor. Nobody uses gear from all those packs you just named except if they are constantly on the hamster wheel, in which case it doesn't matter anyway.