U24 Heart of Madness Items

[Demsac]

Ugh nice stats, bad item types.....

11 str necklace is okay. Lot of good necklaces though.
4 int light armor...Meh, who would use this over shadowsacle?
3 wisdom goggles...easier to get maybe, but there's so many good wisdom base goggles out there. If there's +4 wisdom then I guess it's not as bad.

[Raezar]

Thank You Reign for posting these. It is much appreciated.

[FranOhmsford]

4 int light armor...Meh, who would use this over shadowsacle?

You're joking right?

1) Shadowscale because of the Grind required to get it should probably outclass standard named items of equal level.

2) This Armour is aimed at Wizards NOT Rogues!
Shadowscale doesn't give +4 Int so this Armour beats it silly for a DC Caster!

[Mandelia]

Replace the seeker +10 on the stick with Acid or Sonic or Force damage or stone prison; its 2014, not 2011. +3 insight wisdom goggles when +11 wisdom goggles are the only choice besides the diadem is just pigeonholing the stat and rather lazy thinking. Most of the radiance sources will be ignored with the lantern ring being still optimal.

[cave_diver]

Except that the shadowscale is ml 28, making it absolutely worthless as people spend less than five minutes at level 28 before TRing.

My caster is parked at 28 at the entrance of Ascension Chamer for EE mods., doesn't need ETR's or TR's...she's done.

For lvl's 26 & 27 ill give that the new armor is better, but in no way should it be stated that it is better then completed shadowscale.


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Concerned Citizen
(correcting other forumites wrongs)

[edrein]

You're joking right?

1) Shadowscale because of the Grind required to get it should probably outclass standard named items of equal level.

2) This Armour is aimed at Wizards NOT Rogues!
Shadowscale doesn't give +4 Int so this Armour beats it silly for a DC Caster!

You seem to be overlooking the con, which definitely lends this armor into being for EKs/melee caster builds. Heck, even the description points that much out. No DC caster is really going to throw away any gear or swap anything out for this. A EK definitely would to free up some slots for more important melee gear.

[Mandelia]

The armor might as well be named after the harpers, it has harper tree hybrid written all over it.

[HatsuharuZ]

I have an issue with the "Stone Wall".... it could be equipped by a druid, since it's made of stone, but druids are not proficient with tower shields.

However, the orb item looks nice. Most of the other orbs seem to be useful for negative energy/necromancy users. It's nice to see something different~

[FranOhmsford]

You seem to be overlooking the con, which definitely lends this armor into being for EKs/melee caster builds. Heck, even the description points that much out. No DC caster is really going to throw away any gear or swap anything out for this. A EK definitely would to free up some slots for more important melee gear.

And you're ignoring that there's many other Armours that would be better for an EK than this: Simply for PRR/MRR!

Which is why I say that no way in Shavarath should this be changed to Medium Armour!


On the other hand - If they make a Hide Armour version with Wis instead of Int - That would be more than welcome.


P.S. +4 Con is great for EVERYONE!

[Lonnbeimnech]

3 items I will be picking up for my druid.

[fmalfeas]

You seem to be overlooking the con, which definitely lends this armor into being for EKs/melee caster builds. Heck, even the description points that much out. No DC caster is really going to throw away any gear or swap anything out for this. A EK definitely would to free up some slots for more important melee gear.

Pale trappers very well might as well. Armor they can wear, and keep their evasion, and get good wizzy stats?

[Xaxx]

You're joking right?
OI
1) Shadowscale because of the Grind required to get it should probably outclass standard named items of equal level.

2) This Armour is aimed at Wizards NOT Rogues!
Shadowscale doesn't give +4 Int so this Armour beats it silly for a DC Caster!

Your joking right?

Shadowscale doesnt give +4 int but it gives a dc thats essentially +2 int... and oh yeah THERE ARE +3 INT GOGS IN TOR.... so let me see... +4 int armor that i have to spend ap or a feat to wear without problems.... or +3 int gogs and a +1 dc robe which essentially is +5 int.... hmm..... +1 int and a gear slot is better than +1 dc 8 or so ap or a feat..... you know you can decide what you wanna do... but saying it *beats it silly for a dc caster* means you really dont know jack about dc casters.... do ya bub?

If you wish to reply that you do.... think again man think again.

[Cetus]

These items are utter trash, aside from maybe the strength 11 necklace, but mythic emerald gaze way outperforms it.

That's what we get for having a CR26 pack and a single f2p CR 30 quest.

Ugh

[Blackheartox]

These items are utter trash, aside from maybe the strength 11 necklace, but mythic emerald gaze way outperforms it.

That's what we get for having a CR26 pack and a single f2p CR 30 quest.

Ugh

I assume the googles will have 4 wisdom on mythic version.
So i wouldnt say utter garbage, it will be best in slot for druids fsouls and clerics, also arguable to slot it on monkchers.

I dont really know how that can be considerd trash.

Please teach to understand how that is trash.

Also staff is a nice upgrade for stick builds, depending on procs it might outperform sireth.
Again, depending what that "massive bludgeoning" is


There are more builds around then str based 2 handed weapon users cetus.
Keep that in mind

[Oxarhamar]

I assume the googles will have 4 wisdom on mythic version.
So i wouldnt say utter garbage, it will be best in slot for druids fsouls and clerics, also arguable to slot it on monkchers.

I dont really know how that can be considerd trash.

Please teach to understand how that is trash.

Also staff is a nice upgrade for stick builds, depending on procs it might outperform sireth.
Again, depending what that "massive bludgeoning" is


There are more builds around then str based 2 handed weapon users cetus.
Keep that in mind

Not a single Item my INT Based Repeater Artificer would even consider.

Is this every item because, I only see 7 items with alternate Mythic and Heroic counter parts for a few.

7 Items in the whole Update?

[Blackheartox]

Not a single Item my INT Based Repeater Artificer would even consider.

Is this every item because, I only see 7 items with alternate Mythic and Heroic counter parts for a few.

7 Items in the whole Update?

What can i say, if the quests are fun, good enough for me.
Personaly i wanted some kind wacky unique items bound to delirium.
The heroic packs have more fun things.
Quiver, wraps, clickie --- examples.
The one from the picture have nothing that i could say, now those item came from a delirium chain.
Personally id like more unique fun items then power creepd +20 of überness supreme of total anhilation items.
/my personal taste, might be different for other people tho

[legendkilleroll]

I dont really know how that can be considerd trash.

Please teach to understand how that is trash.

Everything is considered trash to people like that when items are not made for their specific build

[Yalinaa]

Zero item I could use from this list. Turbine just saved 450 TP for me!

[Wizza]

You're joking right?

1) Shadowscale because of the Grind required to get it should probably outclass standard named items of equal level.

2) This Armour is aimed at Wizards NOT Rogues!
Shadowscale doesn't give +4 Int so this Armour beats it silly for a DC Caster!

Grind required to get Shadowscale..like absolutely zero. The only thing that armor has going is the ML 26, at cap it is garbage. You lose +1 DC with Shadowscale, while that +4 Insightful Int may or may not give you +1 DC. This item is designed for those two people who play Melee Wizards probably. At least those of us will be happy with it.

I assume the googles will have 4 wisdom on mythic version.
So i wouldnt say utter garbage, it will be best in slot for druids fsouls and clerics, also arguable to slot it on monkchers.

I dont really know how that can be considerd trash.

Please teach to understand how that is trash.

Also staff is a nice upgrade for stick builds, depending on procs it might outperform sireth.
Again, depending what that "massive bludgeoning" is

You assume. I don't. When we will see the Mythic item (IF there is one even), then we'll comment on those.

About the massive bludgeonin damage: descriptions can be deceptive. Do you remember the massive damage from the Magma Surge Guard (first example that came to my mind)? It was like a 0.01% to do 200 fire damage.

[Infiltraitor]

My only real objection is the Mythic Blazing Sun. It is greatly weaker than the Libram of Silver Magic, which is also a non-raid item and also in the same level 26 and instead BTCOE. The +8 Blazing Sun is an obvious battle cleric item that is quite outclassed by the +11 Libram in pretty much every way. I would bump the enhancement bonus to +12, and add a +12 Shield AC bonus.