Can Shadar-kai have racial traits?

[draven1]

Current shadar-kai has +2 dex / -2 cha.

Hmmm.... THAT'S ALL?

How about 'bonus feat' or 'Gloom Stalker' as basic racial traits?

[fmalfeas]

Or even +1 to saves vs energy drain, which I'm really not sure does anything, but they keep giving it to bards. (Seriously, every source of energy drain I'm aware of doesn't have a save, it's just a spell or a proc chance with no save, and if you're unlucky, it's an epic beholder with an Energy Drain eye instead of Enervation.)

Really, a race that doesn't even have the human skillpoints and feats could have the +2 dex, *no* stat penalty, and still have 'value' left for something like +2 racial bonus to hide and move silently.

What I think they should have, honestly, is Outsider type (they're from the plane of shadow, that makes them Outsiders, so no Hold Person, no Dominate Person, etc), and a permanent racial non-stacking 10% concealment that, like a cloud effect, is immune to true seeing (vestiges of the plane of shadow clinging to them, making it harder to pinpoint exactly where they are).

And...I think that concealment effect would be plenty. A 10% miss chance that can't be overcome by any means. There. So even when True Seeing is on an Ethereal mob, you still have a defense other than just dodge.

[Iriale]

Current shadar-kai has +2 dex / -2 cha.

Hmmm.... THAT'S ALL?

yes, please. Devs, give them their racial traits.