15 Paladin / 3 wiz / 2 Fighter - CleavinBoard

[Theolin]

This was for a past life on toon I have, but I liked it enough to change one of my toons that had a ton of Bastard Swords that was sitting due to past changes.

The idea here is to be constantly cleaving
I pretty much just rotate between the 5 cleaves & momentum swing
cleave, gCleave, EKcleave, LDcleave, Strike down(DCcleave) - do it in a decent order and you are almost never swinging for regular damage & cleaves in S&B are really fast & for some reason are not affected by any of the slow movement / attack debuffs you get

This is a 36 point build but you can adjust dex, wiz, int down & con a to 14 if you need.

New Build
15/3/2 Paladin/Wizard/Fighter
Lawful Good Purple Dragon Knight


Level Order - there is a lot of flex here if you wish


1. Paladin. . . . .6. Paladin . . . .11. Fighter. . . . 16. Paladin
2. Paladin. . . . .7. Paladin . . . .12. Wizard . . . . 17. Paladin
3. Paladin. . . . .8. Paladin . . . .13. Paladin. . . . 18. Paladin
4. Paladin. . . . .9. Paladin . . . .14. Paladin. . . . 19. Wizard
5. Paladin. . . . 10. Paladin . . . .15. Fighter. . . . 20. Wizard




Stats
. . . . . . . .28pt . . 32pt. . .34pt . . 36pt . . Tome. . .Level Up
. . . . . . . .---- . . ----. . .---- . . ---- . . ----. . .--------
Strength. . . . 14. . . .14 . . . 15. . . .16. . . .+4 . . . 4: STR
Dexterity . . . .8. . . .10 . . . 10. . . .10. . . .+4 . . . 8: STR
Constitution. . 15. . . .16 . . . 16. . . .16. . . .+4 . . .12: STR
Intelligence. . 10. . . .10 . . . 10. . . .10. . . .+4 . . .16: STR
Wisdom. . . . . 10. . . .10 . . . 10. . . .10. . . .+4 . . .20: STR
Charisma. . . . 16. . . .16 . . . 16. . . .16. . . .+4 . . .24: STR
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28: STR

Feats


.1. . . . : Power Attack
.1 Purple : Cleave
.1 Deity. : Follower of: Amaunator
.3. . . . : Two Handed Fighting
.6. . . . : Great Cleave
.6 Deity. : Amaunator's Brilliance
.9. . . . : Improved Two Handed Fighting
11 Fighter: Greater Two Handed Fighting
12. . . . : Shield Mastery
12 Wizard : Extend Spell
15. . . . : Improved Critical: Slashing
15 Fighter: Improved Shield Mastery
18. . . . : Exotic Weapon: Bastard Sword
21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic . : Choice
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
27 Epic . : Epic Damage Reduction
28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting


For Epic Destinies: depending

DC with Momentum Swing, Lay Waste & Endless Lay of Hands twisted in

or

LD with Endless lay of hands, Legendary Shield Mastery and Cocoon

or

US with MomSwing, Laywaste & cocoon

Enhancements - picture + 1 point in AM to get invisibility

[cru121]

FWIW if you go up to 5 wiz levels (instead of fighter), you can self-cast displace. You'd lose a feat though.

[unbongwah]

FWIW if you go up to 5 wiz levels (instead of fighter), you can self-cast displace. You'd lose a feat though.

You also have to worry about ASF, whereas the AM SLAs ignore ASF. Having Displacement is nice, ofc, but I'm not convinced it's worth it.

Some quick suggestions: I would pick up Arcane Barrier (particularly on a defensive-oriented EK build), swap MT for GTHF, and Twist in Legendary Shield Mastery for extra PRR & doublestrike.

[cru121]

You also have to worry about ASF

Displacement does not have somatic component, so this should not be a problem. And OP already has Extend.

[unbongwah]

Oops, you're right, I was thinking of Haste, which does have a somatic component.

[Theolin]

You also have to worry about ASF, whereas the AM SLAs ignore ASF. Having Displacement is nice, ofc, but I'm not convinced it's worth it.

Some quick suggestions: I would pick up Arcane Barrier (particularly on a defensive-oriented EK build), swap MT for GTHF, and Twist in Legendary Shield Mastery for extra PRR & doublestrike.

Enhancement points are really really tough as it is, don't think I have enough for AB
Yea could swap MT for GTHF not sure it really matters too much, more cleaves verses little more splash damage
& yea would love to twist in LegendarySM but not enough twists

FWIW if you go up to 5 wiz levels (instead of fighter), you can self-cast displace. You'd lose a feat though.

Thought about 5 wiz,
Would loose 3 feats (well 2 really - pick one back up with wiz5). free tower shield feat from fighter & one other.
and secondly I asked was: is 10ish 1 min displace worth the spell point cost, I decided not really when you have a very small spell point pool. Not to say it wouldn't be nice ... just costly.
Now if I could figure out how to get both the SD & the EK tier 5 ...... then ....

[unbongwah]

Enhancement points are really really tough as it is, don't think I have enough for AB

My view is you spent too in SD and not enough in Vanguard and KotC (no Div Might?).

Yea could swap MT for GTHF not sure it really matters too much, more cleaves verses little more splash damage

THF is a backloaded chain; in particular, GTHF provides an extra glancing blow in addition to +10% glancing blow dmg. Which is why my view is you should take all of the feats or none of them.

TBH, I've been underwhelmed by EK Strike+Spellsword; yes, having an extra cleave is nice (esp. for resetting MS), but overall I don't think it's worth the SP drain on a low-SP build like this.

Would loose 3 feats (well 2 really - pick one back up with wiz5). free tower shield feat from fighter & one other.

Master's Touch grants tower shield prof, so that's not an issue.

[RedSkiesAtNight]

Interesting build. How did you spend your enhancements?

[C-Dog]

Interesting build.

From over 3 years ago...

But looks like Theo is still active, so maybe you'll get an answer from the OP.

How did you spend your enhancements?

From the discussion, sounds something like SD tier 5, AK Tier 3, and enough Pali for defense - tho' Un' disagreed w/ that spread. But more to the point, Paladins have had an enhancement pass since then, so the lack of the graphic showing them is kinda irrelevant.

[Theolin]

Its kinda a dead build for me at the moment, not really enough damage & the defenses while they were good don't hold up to reaper in epics
but here are the enhancements, as someone said its an old build.