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    I'm extremely tired after a very long day at work, so it's possible that in my muddled state I'm getting this wrong, but could someone who can think more coherently than I can at the moment translate what this means to my pure Monk main please?

    20% Human, 10% and 20% DT vestments, 30% PDK Gloves, 25% Jidz, 3x Pally PL's, 10% Ship Buff All Tiers of Shintao (can't remember what that equals).

    My gut reaction is that Turbine have just bent my main over and shafted it without the courtesy of a reach around, but as I said I'm exhausted and it's possible my mind is translating it poorly.

    My main concern is that I use Fists of Light and Vampirism Wraps as primary healing sources and that if it's as bad as I fear they'll now be all but useless. Hoping I'm wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel666 View Post
    I'm extremely tired after a very long day at work, so it's possible that in my muddled state I'm getting this wrong, but could someone who can think more coherently than I can at the moment translate what this means to my pure Monk main please?

    20% Human, 10% and 20% DT vestments, 30% PDK Gloves, 25% Jidz, 3x Pally PL's, 10% Ship Buff All Tiers of Shintao (can't remember what that equals).

    My gut reaction is that Turbine have just bent my main over and shafted it without the courtesy of a reach around, but as I said I'm exhausted and it's possible my mind is translating it poorly.

    My main concern is that I use Fists of Light and Vampirism Wraps as primary healing sources and that if it's as bad as I fear they'll now be all but useless. Hoping I'm wrong.
    If I copied everything into my excel spreadsheet correctly----

    That will be going from 1.2*1.1*1.2*1.25*1.15*1.1*1.34=4.3
    To (100+40+20+40+30+50+30+20+60)/100=3.9
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    Quote Originally Posted by TPICKRELL View Post
    If I copied everything into my excel spreadsheet correctly----

    That will be going from 1.2*1.1*1.2*1.25*1.15*1.1*1.34=4.3
    To (100+40+20+40+30+50+30+20+60)/100=3.9
    Thank you.

    Quite a bit of a nerf then. I know people will point out that it's only 40% ish, but that 40% means the difference between hitting 400% or not and 400% means numbers increasing by 1 per hit or 2 on crits (I think it's crits, but not sure I just know that the numbers alternated between say 6 and 12 for example, muddled brain so if I've got numbers wrong, meh).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TPICKRELL View Post
    If I copied everything into my excel spreadsheet correctly----

    That will be going from 1.2*1.1*1.2*1.25*1.15*1.1*1.34=4.3
    To (100+40+20+40+30+50+30+20+60)/100=3.9
    Hmm my numbers are different:

    20% Human, 10% and 20% DT vestments, 30% PDK Gloves, 25% Jidz, 3x Pally PL's, 10% Ship Buff All Tiers of Shintao (can't remember what that equals).
    On live this build has 1.2 * 1.1 * 1.2 * 1.3 * 1.25 * 1.15 * 1.1 * 1.3 (all 6 core of Shintao) = 4.232943
    Under the new system you will have 40 + 20 + 40 + 60 + 50 + 30 + 20 + 60 = 320 = (100 + 320)/100 = 4.2

    A 100 hit point heal will do 420 instead of 423 on live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    Hmm my numbers are different:



    On live this build has 1.2 * 1.1 * 1.2 * 1.3 * 1.25 * 1.15 * 1.1 * 1.3 (all 6 core of Shintao) = 4.232943
    Under the new system you will have 40 + 20 + 40 + 60 + 50 + 30 + 20 + 60 = 320 = (100 + 320)/100 = 4.2

    A 100 hit point heal will do 420 instead of 423 on live.

    Sev~
    Thank you for the clarification.

    I'll stop sharpening the pitchfork (for now).

    I'll be honest. I was expecting the worst.

    Not your fault, it's just a Turbine past record thing with me and completely subjective.

    *Edit* You know what? If this is the way you intend to implement it then I'm actually going to say Thank You.

    The last week or so I've been working a lot and haven't had much play time, and when I have, I've had a kinda disappointed "What's the point" feeling. I've been working my way through my final Pally Life on my Monk which I started doing because of HAmp, and then this came up and I was starting to feel like I'd put in the effort to get those three Past Lives and it was going to be made pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel666 View Post
    I'm extremely tired after a very long day at work, so it's possible that in my muddled state I'm getting this wrong, but could someone who can think more coherently than I can at the moment translate what this means to my pure Monk main please?

    20% Human, 10% and 20% DT vestments, 30% PDK Gloves, 25% Jidz, 3x Pally PL's, 10% Ship Buff All Tiers of Shintao (can't remember what that equals).

    My gut reaction is that Turbine have just bent my main over and shafted it without the courtesy of a reach around, but as I said I'm exhausted and it's possible my mind is translating it poorly.

    My main concern is that I use Fists of Light and Vampirism Wraps as primary healing sources and that if it's as bad as I fear they'll now be all but useless. Hoping I'm wrong.
    I'm not sure about my math, but it would be:
    1.0 base
    .4 Human
    .2 item 10%
    .4 item 20%
    .6 item 30%
    .5 Jidz
    .3 Pally PLs
    .2 Ship buffs
    .6 Shintao
    =======
    4.2 Total

    Currently:
    1.0 base
    1.2 Human
    1.1 item 10%
    1.2 item 20%
    1.3 item 30%
    1.25 Jidz
    1.15 Pally
    1.1 Ship
    1.3 Shintao
    ===============
    4.232943

    Holy losses Batman, you're loosing 0.032943 % healing amp or 3.29 Hit points for every 100 points of healing.

    I hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWarlock View Post
    I'm not sure about my math, but it would be:
    1.0 base
    .4 Human
    .2 item 10%
    .4 item 20%
    .6 item 30%
    .5 Jidz
    .3 Pally PLs
    .2 Ship buffs
    .6 Shintao
    =======
    4.2 Total

    Currently:
    1.0 base
    1.2 Human
    1.1 item 10%
    1.2 item 20%
    1.3 item 30%
    1.25 Jidz
    1.15 Pally
    1.1 Ship
    1.3 Shintao
    ===============
    4.232943

    Holy losses Batman, you're loosing 0.032943 % healing amp or 3.29 Hit points for every 100 points of healing.

    I hope that helps.
    I appreciate the effort you put into this, but I must admit, that this was answered much earlier in the thread.

    Thanks for the effort though.
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