Ghost of Perdition's end fight is stupid: is this WAI?

[Angelic-council]

It's going to be my 11th run on EE in that quest. We actually fighting with beholder there, very powerful nasty monster. EE is not meant to be solo friendly. Just get divine user to help you and party with full group. 1 more good trick is to jump around in circle while attacking and you can actually avoid one of its attack. That's how I also kite spinner on EE, run in circle because her attack will miss.

[AuraAten]

We ran GoP on EE with a ranger, Arti, and my Palemaster. The quest itself wasnt too difficult, at the endfight the other 2 kept getting Con damage and dying. I didnt. Ran around quite a bit though, spamming DoTs and fire. Mind you, this was at level 26 so I didnt have Ruin. Mabie bring a Palemaster then?

[Tilomere]

Mabie bring a Palemaster then?

Palemaster, cleric or fvs with heal/resto/heal mass, druid with regen/mass, or anyone wielding Axe of Famine as a melee weapon. Or a twf ameliorating strike character.

Since this is the BYOH dps character game, aside from the pale master none of the above actually exist in that high of level EE pugs, because none of them can actually kill an 18k hp EE mob.

[Noir]

I ran this quest in a PUG on EH multiple times last night.
I was running on my DD Elf cleric with DC as my ED.
I was actually running in pure heal mode and had to use Greater Restoration at several requests.
The toon is an elf with full dragonmarks. Most of the time I was invisible and in shadowalk and never did I
draw agro so I could respond to the parties needs unhindered. Unfortunately I didn't SS the +6 Intell
Tome because it didn't drop for me. The character i was running was Volessa on Khyber. Only +6 Tome i ever saw drop.

[Tilomere]

I was running on my DD Elf cleric with DC as my ED.
I was actually running in pure heal mode and had to us Greater Restoration at several requests.

I bet you could charge 200k plat a run to help people through this quest. Think of the opportunities!

[Noir]

I bet you could charge 200k plat a run to help people through this quest. Think of the opportunities!

Possibly but I'm not that greedy. In EH Inferno last night I scored the Epic Chords of Appraisals after 2 rerolls. We had
a Bard in the group that said they would barter for it. I passed it to him and told him to just make it worth my while.
He paid me 800k plat for it. No big deal to me either way. I scored another one as a chain end reward shortly thereafter.

[Wizza]

It's going to be my 11th run on EE in that quest. We actually fighting with beholder there, very powerful nasty monster. EE is not meant to be solo friendly. Just get divine user to help you and party with full group. 1 more good trick is to jump around in circle while attacking and you can actually avoid one of its attack. That's how I also kite spinner on EE, run in circle because her attack will miss.

Not sure why you assume I was soloing or that we actually didn't complete. I even said that I was in a group in a previous reply. I also know how to kite but I was still getting drained every second.

The mechanic, if WAI, is not fun. Getting stun, with no way to avoid it either through items or tactics or even kiting at this point, is simply boring and ridicolous. I'm still hoping this is not WAI anyway. The boss does not feel like a beholder anymore to me, it feels like a CON-Drain machine. It has ZERO traits of a beholder. Does he even Disintegrate or Telekinesis? I didnt see a single one as well. Enervation neither.

It's just missing a Spiked chain.

[Tilomere]

Does he even Disintegrate?
It's just missing a Spiked chain.

That's a fabulous idea of something to add to him. I can see the QQ now. Con Drain > Con Drain > Disintegrate combos.

Spike chain doesn't make sense to me though. How about Death Blossum instead? More fitting of a flying laser mob.

[Silverleafeon]

Imho, which could be wrong, this boss and the wilderness Doomspheres are bugged.

Go into quest solo on EC with a toon that can heal con damage.

Toy with the beholder and watch him carefully, which I did on lamania.
The Doomsphere will only use a single eyestalk ray, upper middle left.
It applies a dot along with con damage that pretty much unstoppable.

Now if all 8 eyebeams worked on a party of 6 players then the con damage would be reduced to every 48 seconds instead of once per second vs solo player.

The antimagic main eye is not working either, which is inconsistent with the raid doomspheres who operate much differently.

Hence I must conclude these doomsphere are flawed and need to be repeatedly bug reported.

[lugoman]

Well, the majority of people do not face this because they run it in EH-EN.

It is an absolute cake below EE.

I agree that it is too much since it does not allow for any tactical approach to avoid the CON damage.

It feels arbitrary and unfun.

EDIT : There is also little incentive to run EE. Loot wise and XP wise, I mean.

This is not true if you are soloing. I ran it on eh alone and was stat drained to helplessness in about 25 seconds. Not exaggerating. And that was with spamming resto scrolls, but they couldnt keep up.

I've pugged it several times in groups with no problems. I guess the stat drain mechanic was spread out among the group.

[Violith]

not sure if it not having anti magic is WAI or not, Given its current combat style I would say its is WAI not to have it as a constant effect. Technically in pnp the anti magic is only the frontal main eye, and its only when its looking at you with that eye, thus the 3sec debuff it gives is stupid, since it can spin around, effect every and thus no one can use spells, which is just stupid, especially with effects like this stat drain as not being able to use spells would kill the quest in its current state.

now currently, it is doable, its possible to solo it on some builds. and its rather easy to dual it as well. so, while I do agre that the constant use of the con drain is stupid. its not like it makes it uncompletable. for those failing what is your lvl? its a lvl 29 quest on normal, so unless your on maxed characrters its common sense that you'd have trouble

[Scrabbler]

They should lower the Doomsphere Constitution ray to only 2-4 points, but make it a timed, stackable debuff that can't be fixed with Restoration or Heal.

And then buff the other 9 rays to be more dangerous...!

[fmalfeas]

If PMs ignore it, what about Forged? This could be one of those situations where bringing a talking pile of metal is your salvation. Preferablly one that makes the doomsphere really, really angry so it only shoots him.

[Silverleafeon]

If PMs ignore it, what about Forged? This could be one of those situations where bringing a talking pile of metal is your salvation. Preferablly one that makes the doomsphere really, really angry so it only shoots him.

lamania 44 deaths on a duo EE run with a warforged sorcerer...he died too a lot...

[AtomicMew]

If PMs ignore it, what about Forged? This could be one of those situations where bringing a talking pile of metal is your salvation. Preferablly one that makes the doomsphere really, really angry so it only shoots him.

Toasters take CON damage too. The only thing that stops the debuff is pale masters forms, from what I've seen.

[cave_diver]

Actually the Con drain doesn't bother me, I hope it doesn't get nerfed. Ran GOP EE probably 25+ times and people just have to watch each others backs and cast a heal/restore from scroll when someone calls out con damage.

Love the avenger lichs in the raid they are nasty

[Rykka]

Though PM's in form require alot of the dodgy keyplay vs anything divine, they are freakin awesome vs everything that drove me crazy as a martial. I habitually tank beholders with my PM... i know nobody needs to tank cause everyone is immune to everything anyways but... just run around behind them if they have AM and keep aggro.

[Indianwiz]

Getting drained -20/-30 Con every second and then getting stunned is just simply a stupid mechanic, not fun, impossible to avoid by moving around the beholder or any tactic (you know, like avoiding the Anti-magic field requires you to stay BEHIND normal beholders).

Is it WAI to get spammed with -30 CON every second? Because if so, good job at making a rather fun and hard quest on heroic, one of the most annoying end fight ever.

Bring a PM? (unless your whole server has re-rolled wizards to cheesy BF sorc/fvs FOTM build).

My PM kicks Doomsphere's a**. Have done more than 30 runs of GoP for Ring farming. EE is challenging but certainly not impossible to complete.

[Blackheartox]

You could use scrolls for globe and try to fight in there, depens what level the con damage is coded as spell.

Just a idea, to low level to do enecro myself atm

[bartharok]

What amuses me is that theres a few "EE is too easy" threads on the same page as this one.