Pure Human Paladin TWF

[Kenzan]

I was thinking of doing a pure paladin for my next life. I already have to cleric past lives.
My plan is to do Knight of the Chalice for maximum damage with two weapon fighting khopeshes.
I would like some help with the feat/enhancements.


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Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(20 Paladin)
Hit Points: 342
Spell Points: 318

BAB: 20/20/25/30/30
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 16
Will: 13

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Strength 16 24 27
Dexterity 15 17 17
Constitution 15 18 18
Intelligence 8 11 11
Wisdom 8 11 11
Charisma 16 19 23

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 4 14.5
Bluff 3 6
Concentration 6 27
Diplomacy 3 6
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 3 6
Heal -1 0
Hide 2 3
Intimidate 3 6
Jump 3 8
Listen -1 0
Move Silently 2 3
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 0
Search -1 0
Spellcraft -1 0
Spot -1 0
Swim 3 8
Tumble n/a 9.5
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting

Level 2 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)

Level 3 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack

Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)

Level 5 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)

Level 6 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0..5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting

Level 7 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)

Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)

Level 9 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

Level 10 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)

Level 11 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)

Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons

Level 13 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)

Level 14 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)

Level 15 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting

Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)

Level 17 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)

Level 18 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 19 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)

Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Attack Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Action Surge: Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Action Surge: Strength (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Action Surge: Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Ambidexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Ambidexterity (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Human - Ambidexterity (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Heroism (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Human - Greater Heroism (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knighht of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer III (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Champion of Good (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Demons (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Outsiders (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Sealed Life (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Armor Mastery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Armor Mastery (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Armor Mastery (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Bulwark Aura (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Bulwark Aura (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Bulwark Aura (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Charisma (Rank 1)

[unbongwah]

Does it have to be pure? A ftr or monk splash would help out with extra feats.

I would drop OTWF and Toughness for Cleave+GC or a couple of metamagics or maybe Dodge & something else.

[Kenzan]

Does it have to be pure? A ftr or monk splash would help out with extra feats.

I would drop OTWF and Toughness for Cleave+GC or a couple of metamagics or maybe Dodge & something else.

No, it doesnt have to be pure. I dont think i'll be spending much time at epic levels.
I was wondering about Cleave and Great Cleave if they would be good for twf.
I plan to use two khopeshes, would the twf line would good enough?
As for the splash, i'd splash 2 levels of fighter (cuz I dont own monk)
thanks for the reply

[Seikojin]

No, it doesnt have to be pure. I dont think i'll be spending much time at epic levels.
I was wondering about Cleave and Great Cleave if they would be good for twf.
I plan to use two khopeshes, would the twf line would good enough?
As for the splash, i'd splash 2 levels of fighter (cuz I dont own monk)
thanks for the reply

Not many would think the cleaves are worth it because it interrupts your attack chain. But 3 times yesterday the cleaves I had helped finish the dragons and giants together in Tor elite at level. After the two reinvigorated.

[Purkilius]

Note in around 2 to 3 weeks the paladin tree will change.

I would change some feats but I am not saying you made some wrong choices but some testing has me convinced...

PA for Precision because I like to crit undead and constructs + I feel Precision is better boss dps which TWF excels at.

Toughness for Quicken when you are out of Lay on Hands a quickened Cure Serious Wounds will save your life!

Oversized Two Weapon Fighting for Stunning Blow you can craft a decent stunning khopesh for your offhand.

Splashing 2 fighter levels is wise if it is only for heroic leveling esp for haste boost and a better stunning dc with those 2 extra feats there are some good choices but that needs to be addressed when you have made your choice, gl

[Psiandron]

As has been noted, Update 23 will be out before to long and you may want to take that into consideration. For one thing, going pure won't necessarily hurt/weaken your build.

One major suggestion that I would make, and keep in mind that I am an inveterate TWFer, you should choose a different fighting style. I can understand if you've been doing it for a while and have the weapons and all, but you can run in SWF or S&B using the same weapons. More importantly, by using SWF or S&B (with the modified Sacred tree and the new Vanguard tree) you'll be able to have a character that can be effective at attacking while moving and can gain full effect from Cleave and GC (as well as Momentum Swing and Lay Waste, although you indicate that you're not planning on running much epic).

Best of luck and have fun.