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    Default Lich Avengers hit for 500+ damage, no combat log info!

    Been running ghosts of perdition on EE now and have died several times now to lich Avengers (despite the fact I normally stomp EE with ZERO deaths). I am always taking 500+ damage from them some how, and yet nothing shows up in the combat log. In fact their attack damage is something like 110 with 136 PRR, yet they are doing some crazy high special attack that hits like a truck.


    Is this force damage, light damage, a bug, *** is hiting me?! There is no damage in the combat log to indicate its source but I kill every other mob and just the Lich Avenger somehow hits for 500+ damage and log says I have been killed by a lich avenger!
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    BTW if this is some unwritten spell with a save etc. this is ridiculous! Here is my toon=

    1317 hp
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    25% incorporiality
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    60 MRR
    279% Fort

    Saves (your gonna love this)
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    ALL no fail on 1 (twist magister + draconic and level 27 epic reflexes feat)


    So obviously its BS i am getting spanked for 500+ damage from a trash mob.
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    You remember the vampire lord Lord Sable?

    It's the same thing. Copied straight over.

    It's Force damage and knockdown in aoe. First attack they use on entering melee range and every 6-8 seconds later. And yes it's 500 odd damage with no save. Kill quick or remember to get out before next blast is due if you don't have 900+ hp and good self healing to top up in battle.

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    Could you get a screenie of the damage and the combat log up at the same time? And submit a bug. For both of them.

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    Any chance they'd actually make the game challenging one day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seikojin View Post
    Could you get a screenie of the damage and the combat log up at the same time? And submit a bug. For both of them.
    Thats the problem, you see your HP drop but there is no record in the combat log for the damage. Enter Ghosts of Perdition and see for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J1NG View Post
    You remember the vampire lord Lord Sable?

    It's the same thing. Copied straight over.

    It's Force damage and knockdown in aoe. First attack they use on entering melee range and every 6-8 seconds later. And yes it's 500 odd damage with no save. Kill quick or remember to get out before next blast is due if you don't have 900+ hp and good self healing to top up in battle.

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    Sable isnt as bad with this and appears to be quite manageable with this, but perhaps thats because he isnt surrounded by quells.


    Next time Lam is up I will try focusing on the Avenger instead of the quells first and see how that goes. But it does seem preety ridiculously high damage with no save from a trash mob. A boss sure, but trash?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delacroix21 View Post
    Sable isnt as bad with this and appears to be quite manageable with this, but perhaps thats because he isnt surrounded by quells.


    Next time Lam is up I will try focusing on the Avenger instead of the quells first and see how that goes. But it does seem preety ridiculously high damage with no save from a trash mob. A boss sure, but trash?
    The solution for power creep in this instance - Ignore power creep entirely by doing %HP no-save damage and/or AOE no-save damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delacroix21 View Post
    Sable isnt as bad with this and appears to be quite manageable with this, but perhaps thats because he isnt surrounded by quells.


    Next time Lam is up I will try focusing on the Avenger instead of the quells first and see how that goes. But it does seem preety ridiculously high damage with no save from a trash mob. A boss sure, but trash?
    are you sure it wasn't disintegrate which is quite common for the damage?

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    The room between the first ice break and the second ice break (EE) has
    3 lich lords
    3 lich avengers {lords and avengers like to travel in pairs}
    a pair 2~3 archers on upper left and right with hamstring or like

    makes an interesting challenge.

    {Oh and some odd sized minor caster/melee types wandering around.}

    Too bad the second ice break is not locked?


    After all what is better than one lich avenger chasing you?
    How about two?

    {By the way, monster design seems to be to punish players that run away / kite lich avengers.}
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    Quote Originally Posted by arkonas View Post
    are you sure it wasn't disintegrate which is quite common for the damage?
    It's not disintegrate. The dc for disintegrate in there is 83. With no fail on 1 and those save numbers, you will never be hit for more than 90 per cast. It is the ability from Lord Sable in question. Only there's just one of him, so it doesn't appear as bad. Here there's at least two if you can't pick off one at a time.

    These lich avengers move fast, attack fast and hit relatively hard. The melee version of the new abbot. They are often paired with lich lords who spam the same spell selection as the new abbot, who appear to be designed against ranged attackers. If you're not fighting smartly, this early fight can easily end the run.

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