How can this really be WAI?

[Elytia]

Just done an ITR and found monster manual didn't reset. Raised ticket with In-game support only to be told this is WAI. How? I have new body, class and spell book. All favor and completions reset but not MM.

It's an Iconic TRUE Reincarnation. This should be exactly the same as an HTR and reset everything. The clue is in the name otherwise it makes the MM pointless for Iconic lives.

If this really is WAI then why is it not mentioned in any release notes?

Please fix this ASAP!!!

[Gljosh]

This was mentioned in a thread a while back (my thread) and it was mentioned as WAI. It makes no sense, it is annoying, it should be mentioned when the Iconics are being sold in the store. Buy this feature and lost another feature, until you heroic TR.

[Qhualor]

I agree that it makes no sense. You do start a brand new life. It should reset.

[zwiebelring]

Your game experience does not reset at all. You know the quests/content up to your point of reincarnation. So you know the encounters in there as well and *just* received a new body.

I wouldn't complain if it did, though .

[TrinityTurtle]

I look at this and the locked level as the price of 15 free levels. I'd prefer and option to start the character at level 1 and be treated like any other class, but that is not currently the deal.

[Dandonk]

It seems silly, since ITR is so much like a normal TR in every other sense. Favor, flagging, area xp, and all that stuff is reset on both. But MM is not reset on an ITR, while it is on a normal TR.

[Gljosh]

I look at this and the locked level as the price of 15 free levels. I'd prefer and option to start the character at level 1 and be treated like any other class, but that is not currently the deal.

Too bad it takes more XP to ITR than to HTR 8.3 million vs 3.8 million soon to be 11.45 million vs 3.8 million and slightly more heart grinding. The bonus that you get from a ITR is small, the passives and the stances. The fact that the MM does not reset leaves quite a lot of XP on the table. Now if each Iconic was as powerful as Bladeforged then the lack of MM resetting would not be as bad. you would have a more powerful character, so that would be the trade off for the XP loss.

[Tscheuss]

Too bad it takes more XP to ITR than to HTR 8.3 million vs 3.8 million soon to be 11.45 million vs 3.8 million and slightly more heart grinding. The bonus that you get from a ITR is small, the passives and the stances. The fact that the MM does not reset leaves quite a lot of XP on the table. Now if each Iconic was as powerful as Bladeforged then the lack of MM resetting would not be as bad. you would have a more powerful character, so that would be the trade off for the XP loss.

ITR needs more XP than HTR? Good thing that high level quests give more XP than low level quests.

[PsychoBlonde]

ITR needs more XP than HTR? Good thing that high level quests give more XP than low level quests.

And many of the epic quests are far shorter than the non-epic ones. Plus there are all those epic sagas. And it's easier to get groups in epic levels because the range is wider and you have all those eTR people you can play with. And there aren't as many quests where you need multiple people to pull levers or similar (most of those quests are actually fairly low level.) And individual characters are more reliably self-sufficient, so you don't have to wait for a full(ish) group 99% of the time, anyway. In my experience an ITR doesn't *take as long* as a heroic TR if you really dig into it and go nuts, and time is the real measure, not XP. Heck, I've seen people go from 20-21 in a single quest. You can't do that at heroic levels.

[Oxarhamar]

And many of the epic quests are far shorter than the non-epic ones. Plus there are all those epic sagas. And it's easier to get groups in epic levels because the range is wider and you have all those eTR people you can play with. And there aren't as many quests where you need multiple people to pull levers or similar (most of those quests are actually fairly low level.) And individual characters are more reliably self-sufficient, so you don't have to wait for a full(ish) group 99% of the time, anyway. In my experience an ITR doesn't *take as long* as a heroic TR if you really dig into it and go nuts, and time is the real measure, not XP. Heck, I've seen people go from 20-21 in a single quest. You can't do that at heroic levels.

Yep ITR way faster than HTR.

Not to mention you start at LVL 15 with all that sweet gear, many feats and a good load of your enhancements right out of the gate.



I would have never played another Paladin life as HTR but, ITR it was easy enough to not be so painful. (Before Paladin changes obviouly)

[Oxarhamar]

Too bad it takes more XP to ITR than to HTR 8.3 million vs 3.8 million soon to be 11.45 million vs 3.8 million and slightly more heart grinding. The bonus that you get from a ITR is small, the passives and the stances. The fact that the MM does not reset leaves quite a lot of XP on the table. Now if each Iconic was as powerful as Bladeforged then the lack of MM resetting would not be as bad. you would have a more powerful character, so that would be the trade off for the XP loss.

Having played Iconic Bladeforged, Shadarkai Kai, & PDK so far I can say that while all iconics are not equally as powerful each has it's own strengths that I found enjoyable. Looking forward to Morninglord as well just not yet.

[psykopeta]

Having played Iconic Bladeforged, Shadarkai Kai, & PDK so far I can say that while all iconics are not equally as powerful each has it's own strengths that I found enjoyable. Looking forward to Morninglord as well just not yet.

do some few iconic lives, get all the stuff from the mm, once u have it, start filling bug reports as mad, ask for reset, whatever

[Gljosh]

Well just do some Iconics then reset the MM by doing a Heroic. Too bad we can't sell "broken" packs and features back for the TP wasted on them.