Shard exchange is a joke

[Bargol]

That's horrible advice. Astral shards aren't real money and silly things sell all the time.

Oh please....screen shot or it didn't happen

The only things that sell are rare newer items, older low drop rate items, consumables, useful epic elite items.

The +7 thru +9 stat items don't sell. Why is the shard exchange full of these items when the E-star vendors are full of the exact same stuff.

[Robai]

That's horrible advice. Astral shards aren't real money and silly things sell all the time.

^This.

[Bargol]

^This.

So now we all know why the shard exchange is loaded up with junk and some of you are crying about not selling.

It might be helpful if people didn't give bad advice like trying to sell silly junk items....just a thought.

[jalont]

So now we all know why the shard exchange is loaded up with junk and some of you are crying about not selling.

It might be helpful if people didn't give bad advice like trying to sell silly junk items....just a thought.

I sell "silly junky stuff" all the time. It seems you're unfamiliar with the way people buy. You sell to the market, and most of DDO's market is not in epic levels. You have a lot more people that need a crafted +10 search item than need any ee gear.

[LavidDynch]

.Even my EE siberys compass wont sell.

My troll sensors are tingling!

[Eth]

So now we all know why the shard exchange is loaded up with junk and some of you are crying about not selling.

It might be helpful if people didn't give bad advice like trying to sell silly junk items....just a thought.

It's a market. If you sold items no on buys, well, no one would buy it. Appearantly there is interest in those 'junk' items, if they keep selling.

[Bargol]

It's a market. If you sold items no on buys, well, no one would buy it. Appearantly there is interest in those 'junk' items, if they keep selling.

They are obviously not selling if there are so many complaining about not selling items.

[Robai]

Oh please....screen shot or it didn't happen

The only things that sell are rare newer items, older low drop rate items, consumables, useful epic elite items.

The +7 thru +9 stat items don't sell. Why is the shard exchange full of these items when the E-star vendors are full of the exact same stuff.

Usually I don't take screenshots for selling things, but I've made one once to prove my to point to a friend (the date of it is 2014.02.02):



It probably had festival icy burst on it (I don't remember), but that doesn't change the fact that the ones who can afford don't really care about the price.
Today probably nobody would pay more than 50 AS for such item, but there are other stuff that sometimes still get sold for weird prices.

[Bargol]

I sell "silly junky stuff" all the time. It seems you're unfamiliar with the way people buy. You sell to the market, and most of DDO's market is not in epic levels. You have a lot more people that need a crafted +10 search item than need any ee gear.

a clean search, spot, disable, etc. item is not junk. It falls under the older low drop rate rare item.

[Sharktopus]

Oh please....screen shot or it didn't happen

The only things that sell are rare newer items, older low drop rate items, consumables, useful epic elite items.

The +7 thru +9 stat items don't sell. Why is the shard exchange full of these items when the E-star vendors are full of the exact same stuff.

When I'm ETRing, I tend to carry the gear I'll need from 20-28 on my toon instead of running to the bank every few hours. Sometimes you run out of space and dump your leveling and placeholder loot on the ASAH mid quest. I'm sure a lot of people do this. There is not a lot of great gear one can wear at 20, 21, 22, 23 etc and those levels go fast so I have various Deadly [n] whatever of resistance [n].

Even with 8 bags, between gear, what is looted from chests to be sorted later, mats, scrolls, potions, and all the random junk I grab along the way from champion chests, I fill up pretty quick. Shard Exchange is the fast answer to overflow. That's why you see my seeker bracers of false life on there for 300 shards.

[Bargol]

Usually I don't take screenshots for selling things, but I've made one once to prove my to point to a friend (the date of it is 2014.02.02):



It probably had festival icy burst on it (I don't remember), but that doesn't change the fact that the ones who can afford don't really care about the price.
Today probably nobody would pay more than 50 AS for such item, but there are other stuff that sometimes still get sold for weird prices.

So you sold a rare low level twink item with icy burst on it for a couple hundred shards.....those would probably still sell for a ton. That is not junk, its not a silly item, it actually is a valuable item. How does this disprove my point? It doesn't.

[jalont]

Usually I don't take screenshots for selling things, but I've made one once to prove my to point to a friend (the date of it is 2014.02.02):



It probably had festival icy burst on it (I don't remember), but that doesn't change the fact that the ones who can afford don't really care about the price.
Today probably nobody would pay more than 50 AS for such item, but there are other stuff that sometimes still get sold for weird prices.

And just so people understand the mindset of "why" people buy this stuff, let me explain, as I am one of the people that buys it.

First, I have a **** load of astral shards. I've paid for none of them, and they've all come legitimately without duping. I TR often, and only use bank toons for plat because I don't like the memory leak that comes from switching toons. Let's say I'm about to run Deleras at level seven. I need something to break those ghostly skelly DRs. For some reason, low level holy items are really rare now, so if I need it quick, I will simply buy it off asah because it isn't on regular ah or I had earlier that day just moved all my plat to a bank toon.

Astral shards have so little value to me, and I assume a lot of other people, that I'd rather spend untold shards than deal with switching to a bank toon to pull and item or plat.

[MisterCanoeHead]

Shard exchange is a monetizing zone for epic elite.The only item I can seem to sell anymore (not elite) is a tor helm.Why have this exchange at all??? Now also, items players desire are only for shard sale;but how do you build a supply of them if nothing sells.Pretty decent items go for 3-5 shards minus the ah fee.Even my EE siberys compass wont sell.this system is real f'd up for average players;you ubber freaks can chime in on how great your doing,but a poll would reveal majority are gettin boned.Obviously I dont need to mention dupers dominate the exchange.

I'm not sure if you know what a free market economy is, but it works on the principle of supply and demand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_market

[Robai]

So you sold a rare low level twink item with icy burst on it for a couple hundred shards.....those would probably still sell for a ton. That is not junk, its not a silly item, it actually is a valuable item. How does this disprove my point? It doesn't.

Ok, you are right, it's not a junk, but I've seen these on AH for like 20K plat many times.

100% junk items probably never get sold (except for misreading/misclicks/etc.), but not so useful items are sold quite often for astral shards (I was selling some junk for 10 AS or so, many times).

Another reason why some junk are in ASAH might be the case when someone had full inventory and put stuff to ASAH and vendor it later (if short on plat). He doesn't lose any astral shards this way.

[mudfud]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. If demand is high people will buy. There are also silly collectors out there who want 1 of each named things, to just collect.
I've sold many rare forgotten named stuff like wayfinder scepters I've had sitting on mules for hundreds. I bought nearly 10k stacks of 100 dd scrolls when it was announced they would be leaving vendors. I've sold stacks of 20 for 100 buyouts, stacks of 100 for 300 buyouts and still have thousands left. Unloading them in a stack or two when I feel the demand for them will be paid, and they always are in hours.
People like the post a few before me said, if they want something they get it, they don't care and use astral shards as there form of payment. People buy silly things all the time that are readily and easily gotten from the plat house, but they choose not to.

I'll start screenshooting some silly things I sell, because usually I put up any named item I get below epic for 5 buyout, even if they are on plat house for less then 10k plat, they do sell.

[janave]

There are a really few vital items in DDO, add in that about every 4-5 levels gears layouts can be effectively updated.(few exceptions)

So even if an item is rare, and in the view of the seller is a high priced item, there might be no buyers, simply because the item is not useful enough or just a placeholder until the better/higher level stuff.

I have sold randgen weapons, but they were very good combinations, often with slot material and masterful craftmanship, these are indeed not common. Hence, for the proper build with no access to named gear, could sell for a lot.

It is worth noting what is being updated, when the bard pass came out, i could sell swashbucklable weapons for nice plat, rarely for a ~5-50 shards.

[deuxanes]

I have used the shard exchange only shortly. I had some 10 AS on my account (probably through daily dice, dunno).

I tried to sell some stuff (e.g. fear, ingredients, collectables) cheaply (auction starting price 1 AS, no instant buy). But barely anything sold. Perhaps I did it wrong, but that is also how I do auction on the other auction house and there things get sold (even collectables I don't need).

Never looked back. I stick with the old auction house.

[Oxarhamar]

Have you managed to solo all of the free content? My point is that most newcomer soloers must buy some Gold Seal contracts in order to reach the level cap. Sluggish ASAH sales hinders their progress if they are on a budget.


Sorry, but that thread from 2010 did not make much sense to me until I saw a video of it being soloed. The only thing about soloing Xorian that I could find on Youtube was by Vettkinna a L19 Sorcerer15/Rogue2/Paladin2. The text in the video does warn that the character must be high enough level to freeze a mob on a pressure plate long enough for the character to get to the other side.

Vettkinna was so tough she could actually ignore the attacking mobs in the key room and just open the chest. Then she wiped the room clean in a couple of seconds with spells.

There does not seem to be any videos of first life L8 characters soloing the quest by themselves or with one hireling. Most new players are still going to need at least two hirelings to solo this quest at level especially if their character doesn't have rogue skills. There are no rogue contracts available for platinum at this level.


For most first life 28-point build newcomers a single platinum hireling may not be enough to solo all content needed to reach the level cap. Most of them will still have to buy some Gold Seal contracts to fill out their team for certain difficult quests. A second and third hireling will cost TP if the player can't earn the Astral Shards.


Thanks, but so far I have managed to solo almost everything using only a few Gold Seal contracts along the way. EE questa are a different story but I can just skip those quests the same way I did with the raids. Sadly, with slower sales on the ASAH and the higher cost of Epic hireling contracts I may also need to skip some EH quests but it is too soon to tell. That is okay, though, since I am mostly interested in exploring the game world and not killing everything in sight. Adventuring can still be done on Epic Normal.

Mr. Cow's material is interesting in a historic sense but largely irrelevant to DDO now. Those were the days when archers could multishoot for 6000 points per hit and a red named would go down in seconds. Now an AA's full 20 seconds of Manyshot is lucky to reduce a red named drow's health by 10%. Did that at L22 and my character was standing in his underwear with two broken bows by the time that Rogue/Ranger finally went down. It was one of the most boring fights I have ever experienced in a game and left me with no desire to complete any more EE content.

Times have changed in DDO and today an AA soloist needs Gold Seal hirelings more than ever before. Getting the shards to buy those contracts is much tougher now that almost "nothing sells" on the ASAH as the OP mentioned and shards no longer drop in the daily Silver rolls. Useless XP gems and bonus elixirs are no substitute for those precious shards.

I disagree and stand by my point: you don't need a single gold seal ever. You may use them if you like but, you do not NEED them.

The thread I supplied explains exactly how a ranger can do it with one hireling (suggestion) try it on casual or normal to figure out/practice the technique. If you want the elite Streak don't complete the quest just practice getting past the objective.

Now I might be mistaken but, Xorian Cypher is a lvl 8 quest so on Elite lvl 10 why are your bringing a lvl 8 first lifer in there? Come back when your the correct level for the quest if you don't want to pay your way to completion with hirelings.

Btw the more hirelings you have the harder the quests become thanks to dungeon scaling. Your increasing the difficulty for yourself.


If you really feel like you must have these hirelings then sell some stuff on the Shard exchange!

Times have changed in DDO it's gotten easier & easier over the years. Mr. Cows videos are completely relivent for heroics in today's DDO characters are more powerful.

EE is a different story but, with a well built, well geared first lifer there's no reason to use gold seals.

There is more than enough content to solo to lvl cap without doing the few quests that require a hire at all.

As for rogue contracts that is the exception but, you don't need a rogue for most quest either even quests with traps if you learn how to avoid them. On an AA your got evasion by level 9.

I hear your complaints but, I know those things you claim are a must are not. Experiance knowledge of the quests is going to be 10 times better than using a bunch of hires & increasing the difficulty.

You want to solo the quests without the hireling practice they are not needed.

[IronClan]

Really? I'll have to check more deeply into this when the server are back up. I know I completed a couple of entries in the ones I have.

Thanks for the heads up.

If someone hasn't pointed it out: you get your 1 shard back if the item doesn't sell

[GreataxeUser]

I have not shopped, nor have I posted an item (on purpose) the shard exchange and even the platinum auctioneer for about 2 years now. Both are broken.