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    Default Snakeskin Vest Edit (Request)

    At this moment in time the snakeskin vest has the following enhancements:
    +5
    +10 spot
    +10 search
    PoP +6
    Greater Nimbleness


    I propose a change to the following enhancements:
    +10 spot
    +10 search

    To these stats:
    +10 Hide
    +10 Move Silent


    I think this would be a good idea because:
    -At level 9 one can equip the goggles of perception that give +10 search, spot which renders this vest less unique/usable beyond level 8
    -It would make more sense (imagine a suit that is slick to the touch like a snake's hide, muffling your movements while being camouflaged, rather than using something archaic to enhance your eyes)
    -Snakes are sneaky so it's still lore-friendly/realistic
    -Personally I would find the item to have a much more rich flavor to it if it these changes were made

    Any thoughts?

    Disclaimer:
    I apologize if there is another thread on this topic elsewhere, I failed to find a thread regarding this particular idea regarding the snakeskin vest

    If you wish to see these changes made, please post on this thread even if it's just a bump! The more replies, the more likely game devs will notice requests like these!

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    Sure - why not...?

    /Signed

    I have 2 or 3 of them sitting in a bank somewhere that I never used because I never played a rogue beyond a few level splashes.
    I do get stealthy on occasion....

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    Honestly I support also giving the Snakeskin Vest item a Poison damage proc whenever your attack rolls a natural 20. Maybe the same as wearing the ML 7 Vulkoor's Cunning items, but taking 1 armor slot instead of 2 accessory slots.

    Because even with the skill bonuses switched around, it's still a low-attractiveness armor item.

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    No. I use the vest as-is. I would view this unwanted change as a nerf.
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    HAHA - this thread is a microcosm of DDO.

    Somebody wants the devs to adjust the game to fit them personally
    Somebody doesn't care one way or the other and just plays as is
    Somebody wants more power
    Somebody calls nerf

    Now if we could only fit a Bladeforged in here somehow....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaipakta View Post
    At this moment in time the snakeskin vest has the following enhancements:
    +5
    +10 spot
    +10 search
    PoP +6
    Greater Nimbleness


    I propose a change to the following enhancements:
    +10 spot
    +10 search

    To these stats:
    +10 Hide
    +10 Move Silent

    Wow - How to make a nice item completely irrelevant in one fell swoop!

    Hide and MS are abilities that don't need special named items with them on - In fact there's plenty of named items in game already with these skill bonuses and those items are amongst the least used named items in-game!

    Search and Spot however are absolute MUST HAVES for a Trapper!

    P.S. The Goggles of Perception are BtCoA and a RAID item!
    They're also pretty weak comparatively these days!


    The Snakeskin Vest {like everything from Lordsmarch} needs buffing BUT this is NOT the way to do that!


    I'd suggest simply adding an Augment Slot {to allow it to be more usable at higher levels} as for a Min Lvl 8 item it's pretty nice already!
    Oh and if it hasn't been done already - Adjusting the Base Armour Class to the Random Armour equivalent {Feycraft would probably be the right choice here.}.

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    Here you go OP:

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Bracers_of_the_Hunter

    Now go farm Sands Slayer - It's the Drow Scorpion on the ledge above Raid the Vulkoorim!


    EDIT: Here's another option for ya:

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Quilted_Cape

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    Last edited by FranOhmsford; 08-30-2014 at 12:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacRighteous View Post
    Now if we could only fit a Bladeforged in here somehow....
    Snakeskin vest is OP because there isn't a Snakeskin Docent! Why does Turbine hate WF!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FranOhmsford View Post
    Here you go OP:

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Bracers_of_the_Hunter

    Now go farm Sands Slayer - It's the Drow Scorpion on the ledge above Raid the Vulkoorim!


    EDIT: Here's another option for ya:

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Quilted_Cape

    Sorrowdusk End Reward!
    This one may be better, because it has both skills buffed.
    http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Accomplice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tscheuss View Post
    This one may be better, because it has both skills buffed.
    http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Accomplice
    I remember running Redwillows so many times trying to get this Cloak of Shadows when I first started playing. ML 7 is ever lower than the ML 9 of Accomplice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chilldude View Post
    I remember running Redwillows so many times trying to get this Cloak of Shadows when I first started playing. ML 7 is ever lower than the ML 9 of Accomplice.
    I know, but I was avoiding BtC.

    Not sure that Redwillow would help you find that cloak, though.
    Last edited by Tscheuss; 08-30-2014 at 01:21 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tscheuss View Post
    No. I use the vest as-is. I would view this unwanted change as a nerf.
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    I use the vest on my trapper, so I don't want this to be changed.

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    Totally unnecessary. Run Threnal, get an Accomplice.The buff you want + green slot, at lvl 9, BtA.
    http://ddowiki.com/page/Accomplice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tscheuss View Post
    This one may be better, because it has both skills buffed.
    http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Accomplice
    Yes but it requires you to run Threnal TWICE!

    Once to get Mantle and a second time to get this!

    Who wants to run Threnal TWICE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chilldude View Post
    Snakeskin vest is OP because there isn't a Snakeskin Docent! Why does Turbine hate WF!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FranOhmsford View Post
    Yes but it requires you to run Threnal TWICE!

    Once to get Mantle and a second time to get this!

    Who wants to run Threnal TWICE?
    A TR who wants the favor and already has a mantle.

    Besides, Threnal is lots of fun, and it is fast on casual farm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FranOhmsford View Post
    Who wants to run Threnal TWICE?
    A lot more people after U23 goes live... I mean really, who won't want to try out the new mechanic of piking the quest you're soloing?
    I would still like to see... Something that tests character versatility and player adaptability rather than character focus strength and quest knowledge.
    I play the quests for the content of the quests not just as an XP/min merry-go-round.
    Actual play experience is worth infinitely more than theorycrafting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PermaBanned View Post
    A lot more people after U23 goes live... I mean really, who won't want to try out the new mechanic of piking the quest you're soloing?
    Specifically the added joy of watching Coyle die while one still completes the quest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chilldude View Post
    Snakeskin vest is OP because there isn't a Snakeskin Docent! Why does Turbine hate WF!?
    Yeah it's not like there's a docent that drops with similar stats in deleras! Make a snakeskin docent!
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