Fast Epic TR

[Xyfiel]

Don't know what the record is but it is a personal accomplishment. Sure this can be done under 3 hours. I had a few smoke breaks, took the dog out, and stopped to make a sandwich. Was done all solo and mostly in off sphere. Had to grind out my last martial life for completionist which I now am since this was life 12.

Total time 4:55
Quest time(based on xp potion) 2:23
All xp bonuses in effect

Epic stone with bonus vip weekend: 3,499,999
All sagas true elite: 1,604,743
Total 5,104,742

1,495,258 xp from quests and explorer areas = 10,456k + xp per minute of quest time
No BB but did have first time bonuses on all but Dust
Hard: Mirror
Normal: Mirror, Breaking the Ranks, Friends in Low Places, Army of Shadow, Legend Revisited, Old Tomb, Trial by Fire, Maze of Madness, Outbreak, Von3, Spies in the House, Lords of Dust
Wheloon: 97k
Horns: 240k
Sschindylryn: 14k

[kierg10]

Impressive you double clicked an xp stone.

[Saekee]

Don't know what the record is but it is a personal accomplishment. Sure this can be done under 3 hours. I had a few smoke breaks, took the dog out, and stopped to make a sandwich. Was done all solo and mostly in off sphere. Had to grind out my last martial life for completionist which I now am since this was life 12.

Total time 4:55
Quest time(based on xp potion) 2:23
All xp bonuses in effect

Epic stone with bonus vip weekend: 3,499,999
All sagas true elite: 1,604,743
Total 5,104,742

1,495,258 xp from quests and explorer areas = 10,456k + xp per minute of quest time
No BB but did have first time bonuses on all but Dust
Hard: Mirror
Normal: Mirror, Breaking the Ranks, Friends in Low Places, Army of Shadow, Legend Revisited, Old Tomb, Trial by Fire, Maze of Madness, Outbreak, Von3, Spies in the House, Lords of Dust
Wheloon: 97k
Horns: 240k
Sschindylryn: 14k

congratz--what is your next step? Always curious what people do after all has been done

Impressive you double clicked an xp stone.

well the OP owned up to it, but also grounded out the rest quickly and efficiently

Me, I am worried about the dog

[Xyfiel]

congratz--what is your next step? Always curious what people do after all has been done


well the OP owned up to it, but also grounded out the rest quickly and efficiently

Me, I am worried about the dog

I need four more lives to get the twists I want, one point short. Since I have use for AC and PRR will get them in Divine/Martial in some combination. Grind out max favor and finish my gear also on the agenda. After that who knows. Have no desire to finish last few lives on my completionist char anytime soon. Every ETR before cap goes up is good so I may just keep going. Especially Divine lives since I run Crusader as main.

Half of the achievement for me was getting all the sagas true elite. I soloed High Road and Wheloon, most for the first time. A few quests I soloed I had never even done on EE.

[morkahn82]

Achievement powered by pay to win, congrats, enjoy.

What you do next? Fastest way of acquiring +6 ability stats (One click in store)? Please keep us informed.

[Vanhooger]

Achievement powered by pay to win, congrats, enjoy.

What you do next? Fastest way of acquiring +6 ability stats (One click in store)? Please keep us informed.

Anyone is free to claim an achievement they way they want. If he have spare money to put in DDO, he just do it. And if ddo still here, just say thanks to those people, because if nobody pay turbine employee it will be shut down in few months.

[Wanesa]

And now, make it by 1th live toon just with only gear found in the chests without any DDO store stuff, without AH or ASAH stuff and without crafting. you can also include permadeath

[morkahn82]

And if ddo still here, just say thanks to those people, because if nobody pay turbine employee it will be shut down in few months.

Your opinion. There is no evidence that pay to win prevents game from shutdown. Instead I claim that pay to win scares of (new and existing) customers.

[Vanhooger]

Your opinion. There is no evidence that pay to win prevents game from shutdown. Instead I claim that pay to win scares of (new and existing) customers.

People that develop game are not doing it just for fun, so they need to make profit. Would you like to work for free? I highly doubt that...

[morkahn82]

People that develop game are not doing it just for fun, so they need to make profit.

You forgot the fact that there are other sources of income rather than pay to win content. Like selling adventure packs/expansion/races/classes/cosmetics.

[Vanhooger]

You forgot the fact that there are other sources of income rather than pay to win content. Like selling adventure packs/expansion/races/classes/cosmetics.

Agree, but creating a stone for 50 bucks take nearly no time for developers, creating adventures pack take lot of work and investment time wise and resource.

[morkahn82]

Agree, but creating a stone for 50 bucks take nearly no time for developers, creating adventures pack take lot of work and investment time wise and resource.

Adventure packs must be developed. No selling stones without providing adventure packs/quests/raids.

Oppose the revenue from pay2win items to the revenue from players that would have started ddo if it wasnt pay2win. We cant, statistics not available. Without doubt, servers would be fuller without pay2win, achievements would be still achievements, the gap between casuals and store enthusiast elitist smaller.

And finally $50 is not entirely enough for a game-changing/breaking item like stone of experience. Sad panda revenue is watered down by duping ottos. My pity is limited.

[Vanhooger]

Adventure packs must be developed. No selling stones without providing adventure packs/quests/raids.

Oppose the revenue from pay2win items to the revenue from players that would have started ddo if it wasnt pay2win. We cant, statistics not available. Without doubt, servers would be fuller without pay2win.

And finally $50 is not entirely enough for a game-changing/breaking item like stone of experience. Sad panda revenue is watered down by duping ottos. My pity is limited.

As a player of DDO I agree with you, but if I was running a business, why spend lot of money, time e resource to get 50$ instead of no effort experience stone?
Again full server with no p2w will be way too expensive in term of developing new stuf and maintenance of those huge data server.

[morkahn82]

As a player of DDO I agree with you, but if I was running a business, why spend lot of money, time e resource to get 50$ instead of no effort experience stone?
Again full server with no p2w will be way too expensive in term of developing new stuf and maintenance of those huge data server.

Good point. Let us see how long this will work out.

up14 menace of underdark july,2012 (about 104 weeks ago) ... where stones introduced, high level tomes (almost exclusivly) settled to store, and tome drop rate decreased.

the fact, from up14, extreme p2w was introduced, logins decreased, correlation.
the claim, causation.

[Vanhooger]

Good point. Let us see how long this will work out.

up14 menace of underdark july,2012 (about 104 weeks ago) ... where stones introduced, high level tomes (almost exclusivly) settled to store, and tome drop rate decreased.

Got it, what you want me to say? It's a niche 8 years old game, so one day when they're not getting enough money out of it, they will put DDO in maintenace mode and then shut it down after a while. It's all about money, they don't care if you don't like p2w.

[morkahn82]

Got it, what you want me to say? It's a niche 8 years old game, so one day when they're not getting enough money out of it, they will put DDO in maintenace mode and then shut it down after a while. It's all about money, they don't care if you don't like p2w.

Sure, if they wanted to shut down the game within next two years and squeeze out every last dollar without doing new investments, they actually did every thing right.

What a pity, I liked the game. (best game forever pre-motu)

[Xyfiel]

Since this came up in thread, epic box was bought with points I earned from favor and hoarding VIP monthly for a long time. While you can still claim p2w due to their existance, it was not paid for by buying points. I know I pay for VIP but I have been VIP since headstart of game and like it. I didn't pay more to get an epic box. I just didn't need anything in the store at the time.

I was actually upset I bought the box and then they put +6 tomes in the store soon after. I got no tome upgrades because I was down to 200 points.

[Vanhooger]

Sure, if they wanted to shut down the game within next two years and squeeze out every last dollar without doing new investments, they actually did every thing right.

What a pity, I liked the game. (best game forever pre-motu)

I know make me sad too, I love this game.

[morkahn82]

Since this came up in thread, epic box was bought with points I earned from favor and hoarding VIP monthly for a long time. While you can still claim p2w due to their existance, it was not paid for by buying points. I know I pay for VIP but I have been VIP since headstart of game and like it. I didn't pay more to get an epic box. I just didn't need anything in the store at the time.

I was actually upset I bought the box and then they put +6 tomes in the store soon after. I got no tome upgrades because I was down to 200 points.

The sad thing is, people (like me) will always judge achievements on the easiest way possible to acquire it. (i.e. oneclick buy ottos in your case). Like the "achievement" of completionist by buying/duping necessary amount of ottos boxes, regardless of if you did it the slow way.

But it is turbine who watered down "achievements" by introducing storeshortcuts/storepower, not the players.