Can I use my +20 heart of would to convert my 7 level rogue to a 2/18 rogue arti

[Fearlessleader62]

I have a few old toons spread around on different servers I wanted to use to make some trial run builds. I have a 7 level WF rogue I wanted to use the +20 heart of wood to make thi WF 2/18 rogue arti build, I just got back to the game after being gone a few years and bought the arti class but never made one.

I have vet +4 32 point builds but not the 7 level build so this would let me make a 7 level starter as long as I can use that free +20 wood and he already has a +3 int tomb in his bank to boot

[MacRighteous]

I have a few old toons spread around on different servers I wanted to use to make some trial run builds. I have a 7 level WF rogue I wanted to use the +20 heart of wood to make thi WF 2/18 rogue arti build, I just got back to the game after being gone a few years and bought the arti class but never made one.

I have vet +4 32 point builds but not the 7 level build so this would let me make a 7 level starter as long as I can use that free +20 wood and he already has a +3 int tomb in his bank to boot

If you are asking can you LR your 7th level rogue into a 7th level rogue/arti with your +20 heartwood? Then the answer is yes. Be awre though that Not all LR multiclass combinations are possible with even a +20 Heartwood, your current build vs the build you want to be doesn't sound like this is one of those situations, unless your current build has levels in something else you failed to mention... If not - get your butt to the hall of heros and make the build you want to play.

Personally, I might save the +20 heartwood for something else and just buy the +7 vets build, as it's about the same price as the Heartwood plus you can use the vet build on all future builds. Look at it this way... you burn your heartwood... you find that this arti build isnt for you... you are not satisfied and now your options are to shelf this toon - LR him again by buying a store wood or roll another build from level 4. You wasted your free heartwood, still have a level 7 build you dont want to play and your options are to make do or spend money... but... if you just spend the money in the first place you can make level 7 toons till you run out of slots giving you a much better chance to find the build you like and still have your heartwood for when one of those builds get to level 15 and you find you gimped your build.

[Fearlessleader62]

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Loktigte 
Level 20 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(2 Rogue \ 18 Artificer) 
Hit Points: 260
Spell Points: 962 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 11
Reflex: 14
Will: 9

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             10                    13
Dexterity            16                    21
Constitution         18                    20
Intelligence         16                    22
Wisdom                6                     6
Charisma              6                     6

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               5                    12
Bluff                -2                    -1
Concentration         5.5                  22
Diplomacy            -2                    -1
Disable Device        7                    30
Haggle                0                     2
Heal                 -2                    -1
Hide                  5                     8
Intimidate           -2                    -1
Jump                  4                     7
Listen               -2                    -1
Move Silently         5                     8
Open Lock             7                    27
Perform              n/a                    0
Repair                7                    30
Search                7                    30
Spellcraft            5                    30
Spot                  2                    22
Swim                  0                     2
Tumble                4                     7
Use Magic Device      2                    22

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Rogue)


Level 3 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 4 (Artificer)


Level 5 (Artificer)


Level 6 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Precise Shot


Level 7 (Artificer)


Level 8 (Artificer)


Level 9 (Artificer)


Level 10 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Empower Spell


Level 11 (Artificer)


Level 12 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 13 (Artificer)


Level 14 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Rapid Shot


Level 15 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 16 (Artificer)


Level 17 (Artificer)


Level 18 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Improved Precise Shot
Feat: (Selected) Precision


Level 19 (Artificer)


Level 20 (Artificer)

[Fearlessleader62]

If you are asking can you LR your 7th level rogue into a 7th level rogue/arti with your +20 heartwood? Then the answer is yes. Be awre though that Not all LR multiclass combinations are possible with even a +20 Heartwood, your current build vs the build you want to be doesn't sound like this is one of those situations, unless your current build has levels in something else you failed to mention... If not - get your butt to the hall of heros and make the build you want to play.

Personally, I might save the +20 heartwood for something else and just buy the +7 vets build, as it's about the same price as the Heartwood plus you can use the vet build on all future builds. Look at it this way... you burn your heartwood... you find that this arti build isnt for you... you are not satisfied and now your options are to shelf this toon - LR him again by buying a store wood or roll another build from level 4. You wasted your free heartwood, still have a level 7 build you don't want to play and your options are to make do or spend money... but... if you just spend the money in the first place you can make level 7 toons till you run out of slots giving you a much better chance to find the build you like and still have your heartwood for when one of those builds get to level 15 and you find you gimped your build.

Well I posted what I came up with I could not find any full builds to look at the best order to take what feats and all his skills maxed out nice like UMD Open locks disable device spot search all the trap monkey stuff

As far as then Metamagic stuff that I will have to play with a bit I think the build should be sound.

what I wanted was to be able to solo lots of the low level stuff so traps locks should be a breeze he has lots of self heals and he should do lots of damage with the repeatable crossbow.

I still will have to do all the enhancements live. I am a bit rusty on my builds I have been out of the game for 3 years so it took most of the day I will see how he plays out. its just a test made from a old toon I never played on a off world for me.
If anyone sees any real problems let me know but I will rebuild him in a bit

I asked about the +20 wood in the chat and they told me it should work too. The one thing some guy said was needed perform and I almost bought It seems to me force is where he should go not sonic.

I also would have liked to use mithril and not composite again to make his tougher and something did not feel right to not use any toughness to me but that was what most said i seen but they had no posts of their builds either.

I hope its good enough I don't know if this guy will do epics op it will be based on a a TR on my main world.

Well go ahead now and tell me how bad I did !!

[JOTMON]

I have a few old toons spread around on different servers I wanted to use to make some trial run builds. I have a 7 level WF rogue I wanted to use the +20 heart of wood to make thi WF 2/18 rogue arti build, I just got back to the game after being gone a few years and bought the arti class but never made one.

I have vet +4 32 point builds but not the 7 level build so this would let me make a 7 level starter as long as I can use that free +20 wood and he already has a +3 int tomb in his bank to boot

Just some clarification here...

The +20 heart will let you change all your levels (unless alignment restricted)
You can take your level 7 toon and change all its levels, but at the end you will still only be level 7.
You cannot take your level 7 toon and turn it into a level 20 toon with this heart.

[Fearlessleader62]

Just some clarification here...

The +20 heart will let you change all your levels (unless alignment restricted)
You can take your level 7 toon and change all its levels, but at the end you will still only be level 7.
You cannot take your level 7 toon and turn it into a level 20 toon with this heart.

Yep I know that only true TR can change alignment. Ya I know I will be 7 level, no levels come free its just rebuilding the levels I have and letting me making up to 3 class changes and I only need the one at level 3. He started out a Warforged Rogue level 7 and his alignment was True Neutral. If I wanted Lawful Good I would have to buy that change and make that first. My post says Lawful Good but he will be True Neutral.

But this worked out like one of them new veteran that start at level 7. I thought it was a good deal for a Free test toon

Like I said it been 3 years since I was here. I am a bit rusty on my builds but I built lots all over the place just like this one was. I did not want to start with my first rebuild on my main world