Wolf/proc/speed build ee focused

[Blackheartox]

Animal form code is so messed up and they can't fix it build

I wont post any specifics or whatever, nor my maxed stats nor maximum damage nor speed runs, nor max hp, nothing.
Purely split and some ap pointers, its up to the people who look this up to figure the rest on their own.
Doing this mainly since i got many requests from people to do so.
Those that partied with me will know how this build plays in groups/how good/bad it is.
So have fun and good luck.

Build is rather simple, while ranger still offers ability to bypass swf/2weapon fight lockout it will utilize that bypass to get ahold of the combat speed bonus for wolf builds making it superb dps, when i say superb im talking about a build that can straight out outkill a 10 stacks blitzer while in destenies like shadowdancer or magister since it is helpless/mortal fear focused.

Basically its 6 monk 6 ranger 8 druid.
Max points in str, spread rest of points between con wisdom and dex for greater 2 weapon fight.
6 monk for shadow fade/stance/dodge cap increase 3 feats.
6 ranger for improved 2 weapon fight/manyshot which you wont ever use, some enchn from tempest some from deepwood, massive pos spp
8 druid for winter wolf form, fatall harrier.
Race is human since you will lack feats.
Feats i took was in this order,
lv 1 human /quicken/emp heal
Lv 2 monk patack
lv 3 monk single weapon fight, lv 3 feat cleave
from now til 20, just make sure to keep leveling to get enough bab at 15-18 for greater swf and greater 2 weapon fight
6 gcleave
9 imp swf
12 imp criti blud
15 greater 2 weapon fight
18 greater swf fight
21 master stance
24 oc crit
26 perfect 2 weapon fight
28 holy strikes

lv 27 feat depends on what you have acces to, options are many and depend on what you take for last monk feat, for example deflect arrows and upgrade it via tempest, cexpertise if you have plenty twist slots and want workable ac in ee content with massive prr but know how to survive with a 60 sec cd vigor /hint pots scrolls, yes more then enough for any ee content/,
toughnes so that you can take epic toughnes at 27, option also is stunning fist since it works while centerd in wolf form.
I usually took cexpertise or delfect arrows as monk feat and at 27 completionist.

Also keep in mind, this is a build that abuses the ranger bypass lockout for swf fight, but it wont fall off once they fix that since you will still get 10% from monk 10% from ranger tempest and 20% from core from ranger to a total of 60% off hand strike.
Ap wise, damage boost and 10 amp from human, after that there are many setups you can play with.
Must haves are killer from deepwood stalker fatal harrier from natures warrior and shadow fade from ninja spy to utilize dps and defense.
I usualy took prr upgraded and offstrike from shintao and 10% off strike from tempest.

How does it play?
Its a build that totaly utilizes proc power from balancing attacks from primal t3 that gives your enemy helpless state on rolled 20s.
As you have 30% natural speed that raises up to 55% att speed when fatal harried and quite nice dstrike with items/killer action boost your attack rate and proc rate of helpless state is amazingly huge /you will proc it once per ee mob and they wont survive long when you are endgeared since build will utilize mortal fear to best a melle can utilize it/

I played with this for couple weeks, but i felt so dirty and everything in party beside me felt like a scaler, and being able to run any ee flawlessly didnt give much fun to me, its a build that will turn you into a elitist willing or no so play it at your own risk.
For people that want to utilize maximum efficiency and that felt that cetus/zeus etc felt like low dps, i suggest you try this.
For twists only must haves are cocoon and balancing, everything else depends on you as player /you could drop cocoon as well/.
I went with gmaster t4 15 prr twist and a dance of flowers, including those 2 i mentioned before to achieve around 140-160 prr /depending in setup and plifes it might be lower for you.
Couple things to note, i soloed most quests on ee that i had will to do so, you can do wgu/breaking/dev assault, whatever your heart wants, since i managed and im not a amazing player, a better player with enough will could make this build leader of all melle speed runs in achivment board, why i didnt attempt is simple, i dont care about virtual acomplishment unless if it offers some kind reward.

Couple tricks im willing to share, you can use absorb sentinel twist and divine plife as wolf without breaking attack sequence,
you can use wolf strikes to charge blitz,
monk finishers are useful.

I trd to sorc now so only screenie i have where you can somehow see gear layout and bars etc is this one:
http://postimg.org/image/vim1ayr7v/

Hp goes higher when in raids, prr was around 140 in that setup, saves are pitfull but with divine ep plife/scrolls/absorb cloacks its not a issue. Its a melle that has v nice damage mitigation 110-150ish ac /depends on gear setup and no loss in dps whatsover.
Playable in any destiny but excels in dreadnought and d crusader.
Gear wise could drop robe /i liked the clickie personaly/ for epic red dragon for flaming damage or flawless white for more ac
/players choice what he prefers.

Anyways enjoy, and if soemeone got a proper name feel free to name it

[Lonnbeimnech]

I'm currently running something like this. Except it's a shadir kai, and i didnt feel like using a lesser to get rid of the rogue level, so I couldn't fit in monk. Ended up with 11 ranger 8 druid 1 rogue using weapon and orb. Basic idea is the same twf+swf+double strike = lol. Your build looks stronger overall

[serthcore]

what do you think about this name?
"Animal form code is so messed up and they can't fix it" build

[Blackheartox]

what do you think about this name?
"Animal form code is so messed up and they can't fix it" build

I like it /i alrdy said in couple threads that animal form is beyond broken, this build proved it perfectly, if this can get some attention from devs to remake whole form and make it actually something unique, not broken and to get rid of the lever/shape lag i would be happy.

Will add the name to start

[gwonbush]

Does Perfect Single Weapon Fighting work in animal form? If so, that would double the amount of Balanced Attack procs you get.

[Blackheartox]

Does Perfect Single Weapon Fighting work in animal form? If so, that would double the amount of Balanced Attack procs you get.

Nah, swf works weird in animal form, as you only get the att speed, the damage part and perfect swf dont work.
But when you couple the att speed with procs, for example celestia procs, th weaponry procs it becomes rather silly dps wise.

What i initialy wanted is to make a dex based build to fix the issue with reflex save but dex to damage doesnt work in wolf form /prolly linkd with wraps not being dex able as well/ which would solve low reflex and give freedom not to rely on absorb n scrolls to much.
Overall there are more bugs in wolf form then any other figt style, maybe solution would be to make a seperate style and disable 2weapon fight and swf from form? As currently being able to have 100% offstrike with fastest melle at speed, makes wolf builds something like shuri builds /for procs/ in melle, and anyone who plays high end ee content knows how to value thforged procs.
Couple that with high dstrike and perm 10 stacks of blitz and viola you got yourself a beast.
But non the less it is fun to play

[Aziraphale88]

Wait you can take more swf feats after being autogranted twf feats from ranger?

here I was making ranger 6 the tail end of my build because I thought I couldn't take more swf feats after ranger 2. did you manually take gtwf? how?

[unbongwah]

What i initialy wanted is to make a dex based build to fix the issue with reflex save but dex to damage doesnt work in wolf form /prolly linkd with wraps not being dex able as well/ which would solve low reflex and give freedom not to rely on absorb n scrolls to much.

I've read that DEX-to-dmg will work in wolf form if you have a ki weapon rather than handwraps, because Ninja Training is based on your equipped weapon, not the dmg type you're dealing. But I've never tested it myself.

Wait you can take more swf feats after being autogranted twf feats from ranger?

The way it was originally coded when U22 came out is SWF and TWF feats are mutually exclusive, but ISWF/GSWF and ITWF/GTWF are not anti-requisites of each other. So long as you took SWF before rgr 2's free TWF, you could squeeze both feat lines onto a wolf / bear druid.

Another possibility would be druid 9 / monk 9 / rgr 2: that gets you Imp Evasion and access to Natural Fighting; though I don't know how you would squeeze in any NF feats since you need to take ITWF as well, unless maybe you skip metamagics entirely.

[Aziraphale88]

I've read that DEX-to-dmg will work in wolf form if you have a ki weapon rather than handwraps, because Ninja Training is based on your equipped weapon, not the dmg type you're dealing. But I've never tested it myself.

The way it was originally coded when U22 came out is SWF and TWF feats are mutually exclusive, but ISWF/GSWF and ITWF/GTWF are not anti-requisites of each other. So long as you took SWF before rgr 2's free TWF, you could squeeze both feat lines onto a wolf / bear druid.

Another possibility would be druid 9 / monk 9 / rgr 2: that gets you Imp Evasion and access to Natural Fighting; though I don't know how you would squeeze in any NF feats since you need to take ITWF as well, unless maybe you skip metamagics entirely.

I'm sort of feeling this 6/6/8 build. I can't decide if nat fighting is better than overwhelming crit and master of forms.. I like imp evasion too, though.

Anyway, do tempest enhancement that require dual wielding work with wolf form? can I dance of death? will the improved defense enhancement work? I like the idea of deflect arrows being relevant.

[Aziraphale88]

Does swf only work if you're only holding 1 weapon?

I know that's a dumb question, but wolf form is weird and i was curious.

[Maelodic]

I'd kind of like to see this build in action- does anybody have a video demonstration or can make one?

[April_Kinslayer]

I'm currently running this build, except as a PDK. Allow me to stress the importance of the leveling order. I varied the order due to LR'ing the fighter level out and wasn't able to grab GTWF as of yet. Not a huge difference, but it still irks me. Also, yes you must have only one weapon equipped.

[richieelias27]

I'm sort of feeling this 6/6/8 build. I can't decide if nat fighting is better than overwhelming crit and master of forms.. I like imp evasion too, though.

Anyway, do tempest enhancement that require dual wielding work with wolf form? can I dance of death? will the improved defense enhancement work? I like the idea of deflect arrows being relevant.

Nope none of the tempest enhancements that require dual wielding work as far as I can see. Can't speak for deflect arrows though.

[Munkenmo]

Nope none of the tempest enhancements that require dual wielding work as far as I can see. Can't speak for deflect arrows though.

The off hand procs do require dual weapons to be equipped, as does everything else that states it requires a shield of whirling steel, and it's pretty obvious when you do and don't have whirling steel activated.

The easiest way to test the off hand procs is to hit the training dummy, it will take a while, but you will eventually notice that you will only land one attack and no miss appear. Ie. you make one hit, no off hand attack & no double strike attack, which would be impossible if the tempest core and deft strikes worked with a single weapon.

The bright side is that Shintao's deft strikes does still work according to my testing, I assume it's because wolf attacks are counted as unarmed, so you can have main hand strikes, 90% off hand attacks + double strike.

The tempest tree is still worth investing in for Hasteboost, to qualify for it I'd recommend picking up core 1, +6 reflex saves vs traps, 1 rank in item wear.