It is true that a pure would have 1 higher DC and the ability wit that mantle to debuff reflex saves so would technically be more effective than my build, even though, as I said above, I tend to shoot for the most effective possible build. The problem with this is that DPS is so much lower that having stuff knocked down, but not dead, is not really effective. Yeah, a Shiradi could sit and wait for its random effects to kill the stuff, but that involves waiting. I tend to drop Earthquake, then divine wrath, an energy burst and a hellball and 2 seconds later everything is dead. if there is a straggler mob living then a quick ruin will eliminate him while I am running to the next group of mobs. No waiting, no fussing.