VIP Weekend: +5% XP Bonus!

[Jeremiah179]

...Comes in at around $2000 as a bare minimum.

I am VIP and have paid similar to this as well, not as many years however, maybe 3 now?
***edit*** not $2000! I meant a similar rate per year and expansions etc.


The solution is easy, whenever they give VIP a perk it should be for sale in the store to the premiums. So this weekend you should be able to buy the VIP exp perk for 250TP. Then the game is working exactly as intended.

(you know that is not what they want though. They want to spend less by their math and brag in forums about what geniuses they are and tell everyone VIP is stupid, do it my smart way. THEN want to come trash on turbine anytime they try to make VIP NOT look stupid.)

I think this would be beautiful solution. lol

You should also be able buy the run fast around town (lol) for 995 turbine points, per server mind you.

[Vellrad]

Okay after reading some of the clarifying arguments I think I have adjusted my take on this a bit.

A "bonus weekend" should apply to everyone.

VIP perks should be those that are permanent (such as the movement speed in town, opening elite, etc) and if Turbine wants to add more perks to get more people to sub that's great, just make it known to the players.

Make 2 types of events.

One is bonus weekends, for everyone.

One is special temprorary vip perk.
It lasts one month and appears in every month.

For example:
january: vips gets extra XP
february: vips gets extra coms
march: vips gets 5TP more for each favor award
april: vips gets jesters mask cosmetic for free on each of their characters
may: something different

etc etc

[Qhualor]

Make 2 types of events.

One is bonus weekends, for everyone.

One is special temprorary vip perk.
It lasts one month and appears in every month.

For example:
january: vips gets extra XP
february: vips gets extra coms
march: vips gets 5TP more for each favor award
april: vips gets jesters mask cosmetic for free on each of their characters
may: something different

etc etc

im not going to say its a bad idea or a good idea. all I can say is that when Turbine gave us notice about free epic hearts of wood for a limited time if you were VIP, there were a lot of people that said they would only be VIP long enough to get the free perk. knowing ahead of time what the perks are would be too inconsistent and just as unreliable as premiums.

[Kadriel]

Yeah..I knew this would be coming. lol

Like Full Bleed said... You get my point though.
And like I said above. Given the current state of things, Turbine's metrics have currently obviously shifted focus. Hence their push for more subs. The reason doesn't matter. As only they'll know why/what they need to meet to satisfy those above them.

And without getting into 'class-wars' nonsense, if that's where their priority lies at the moment, then that's who's top of the heap (in target focus). And they're backing it up in what they push. Why do you think they just had the buy a year, get 3 months free deal??

Why the self importance of how you rate in the food chain? As long as you get whatever it is you pay for, it shouldn't matter one iota. Regardless of store bought, or sub.

It is important to avoid what we had when the f2p model came out - segregation of the player base. I had a couple friends leaving the game over "VIPs only" lfm or similar atitudes. I'm sure if you have been f2p since the shift you remember that.

I have no problem with VIP perks. As I said I feel beeing premium has it's perks (though if I could go back in time I would have gone VIP instead of premium. The free TP and the extra perks would be worth it).

I do have a problem with a player created "class war" between premium and VIP and even F2P. I want more people to play and enjoy the game so it won't die in the next two years. Veteran x Newbie is already detrimental enough.

[Tscheuss]

I am VIP and have paid similar to this as well, not as many years however, maybe 3 now?
***edit*** not $2000! I meant a similar rate per year and expansions etc.


The solution is easy, whenever they give VIP a perk it should be for sale in the store to the premiums. So this weekend you should be able to buy the VIP exp perk for 250TP. Then the game is working exactly as intended.

(you know that is not what they want though. They want to spend less by their math and brag in forums about what geniuses they are and tell everyone VIP is stupid, do it my smart way. THEN want to come trash on turbine anytime they try to make VIP NOT look stupid.)

I think this would be beautiful solution. lol

You should also be able buy the run fast around town (lol) for 995 turbine points, per server mind you.

What do VIP's have that cannot be bought in Store or earned in game?

[Kadriel]

What do VIP's have that cannot be bought in Store or earned in game?

VIP perks are:

500 free TP per month (can be bought)
Acess to everything but EPs (can be bought)

Elite/Hard open (can be unlocked getting to second/third life)

More auction slots (can't)
1 free extra saga skip (can't)
Extra 10% move bonus that stacks with everything (can't)
Extra 10% xp that stacks with everything (can't)
Priority on customer services and events (can't)

[Tscheuss]

VIP perks are:

500 free TP per month (can be bought)
Acess to everything but EPs (can be bought)

Elite/Hard open (can be unlocked getting to second/third life)

More auction slots (can't)
1 free extra saga skip (can't)
Extra 10% move bonus that stacks with everything (can't)
Extra 10% xp that stacks with everything (can't)
Priority on customer services and events (can't)

Premiums get more auction slots, too.
Can't argue about the extra saga skip.
Phiarlan Pendant of Time is pretty good.
XP pots up to 50% are available in store.
Premiums get full customer service for a period after buying something (based on how much was spent)

[Kadriel]

Premiums get more auction slots, too.
Can't argue about the extra saga skip.
Phiarlan Pendant of Time is pretty good.
XP pots up to 50% are available in store.
Premiums get full customer service for a period after buying something (based on how much was spent)

VIPS gets more auction slots than premium (20 asah instead of 10 for premium for example)

moving speed and xp stacks with xp pots and the pendant (or are supposed to)

true for customer service but not for other things like early beta acess

[Qyre]

It is important to avoid what we had when the f2p model came out - segregation of the player base. I had a couple friends leaving the game over "VIPs only" lfm or similar atitudes. I'm sure if you have been f2p since the shift you remember that.

I absolutely do. Though sadly it continues to permeate (albeit to a much lesser extent).
At any rate, the less of it the better!

I do have a problem with a player created "class war" between premium and VIP and even F2P. I want more people to play and enjoy the game so it won't die in the next two years. Veteran x Newbie is already detrimental enough.

As do I. I don't understand why one group thinks they have to be 'better' than another. We are ALL players, and we are ALL needed for the solvency of the game.

[Qyre]

Premiums get full customer service for a period after buying something (based on how much was spent)

Did they change this at some point? I know it used to be a flat 30-days post-purchase...not based on $ figure

On a related note, I'd consider it a nicer perk if Turbine considered a "points system" for everyone outside of the VIP class. Which would be viewable in the game UI, or at the very least in the forum's player panel UI.

EG: Normal (historical) CS rules continue to apply, until a purchase is made.
-Once a purchase is made, then you have X number of "priority CS tickets" with no expiration.

They *could* base it off of dollar amount, but I'd prefer it to be just X number per purchase (for fairness since every player contributes to this game, regardless of pocket depth).

As, as it stands, for me, there's far less incentive for spontaneous purchases under the current system with regard to "upgraded CS" as a perk. Since I rarely need it..that "perk" has traditionally been wasted. Could be a nice incentive opportunity here Turbine! (UI changes optional, but welcomed of course.)

[Vellrad]

Premiums get more auction slots, too.
Can't argue about the extra saga skip.
Phiarlan Pendant of Time is pretty good.
XP pots up to 50% are available in store.
Premiums get full customer service for a period after buying something (based on how much was spent)

me and guildie vip were doing von3.
I had 50% pot, he had 30%.
He earned more XP than I did.

[Tscheuss]

Did they change this at some point? I know it used to be a flat 30-days post-purchase...not based on $ figure

On a related note, I'd consider it a nicer perk if Turbine considered a "points system" for everyone outside of the VIP class. Which would be viewable in the game UI, or at the very least in the forum's player panel UI.

EG: Normal (historical) CS rules continue to apply, until a purchase is made.
-Once a purchase is made, then you have X number of "priority CS tickets" with no expiration.

They *could* base it off of dollar amount, but I'd prefer it to be just X number per purchase (for fairness since every player contributes to this game, regardless of pocket depth).

As, as it stands, for me, there's far less incentive for spontaneous purchases under the current system with regard to "upgraded CS" as a perk. Since I rarely need it..that "perk" has traditionally been wasted. Could be a nice incentive opportunity here Turbine! (UI changes optional, but welcomed of course.)

The table for CS is listed here. Although, it does look like the cheapest path is to somehow spend $1 every fortnight.

[Tscheuss]

VIPS gets more auction slots than premium (20 asah instead of 10 for premium for example)

moving speed and xp stacks with xp pots and the pendant (or are supposed to)

true for customer service but not for other things like early beta acess

The point is that the gap in perks between Premium and VIP is not that large. Premiums have no real reason to grief about VIP's getting a little more. If a non-VIP really covets what VIP's have, there is a very simple fix... subscribe.

[Steiner-Davion]

me and guildie vip were doing von3.
I had 50% pot, he had 30%.
He earned more XP than I did.

Pretty sure that had nothing to do with his VIP Status.

First time quest bonus
1st time running quest that quest that day bonus
Bravery Streak Bonus
Voice or Mantel bonus
Guild Ship buff bonus

...

[Qhualor]

Pretty sure that had nothing to do with his VIP Status.

First time quest bonus
1st time running quest that quest that day bonus
Bravery Streak Bonus
Voice or Mantel bonus
Guild Ship buff bonus

...

also it could be 10% for VIP + 5% VIP bonus days + 30% pot = 45%

[Tscheuss]

also it could be 10% for VIP + 5% VIP bonus days + 30% pot = 45%

...and 45% > 50%???

I think there is more to the story.

[Steiner-Davion]

...and 45% > 50%???

I think there is more to the story.

And thus my post.

Math is hard.

[Tscheuss]

And thus my post.

Math is hard.

Don't forget the Tomes.

[Vellrad]

also it could be 10% for VIP + 5% VIP bonus days + 30% pot = 45%

Its not + its *

[Qhualor]

Its not + its *

this is a pretty useful guide. you should check it out.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Experience_points