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    Quivering Palm has been completely nerfed by the last pass- you won't find any use it in. I would still recommend going 12 Monk.
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    Thanks everyone for your comments. I've posted an updated build in the OP.

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    Default This build is awesome! Get is while it lasts! :)

    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    The higher-tier Forms feats can be taken as regular feats, so they're not much of an incentive. The only monk DCs I really care about are Stunning Fist and Quivering Palm; and only the latter scales w/# of monk lvls. Naturally, if you're building to use ToD, Unbalancing Strike, etc. that's another matter.
    I've posted an updated build in the OP.

    I'm focusing on Flash Bang, Unbalancing Strike, and TOD as well as the standard and dark finishers, all of which depend on monk levels. Focusing on quivering palm appears to be a dead end according to most people I've consulted.

    I've come to discover through my research, advice on this thread, and experience that the originally posted build is pretty good, but just needed a few tweaks--like dropping the higher level henshin mystic spell enhancements (which do not scale well anyways).
    Last edited by savingsoul; 05-30-2014 at 02:37 PM.

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    Default Punch Drunk Love - 3D/17M

    ***FOR THE LATEST ON THIS BUILD, PLEASE GO HERE: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...f-Form*-Builds

    This variation of the build is more streamlined and simple to use, with a focus on unbalancing strike and flash bang. It uses 3 levels of druid rather than 2.

    It would probably work well as a dwarf using the tactics enhancements. I've played it as a helf with some great results so far.

    Losses from taking 3 levels of Druid vs. Pure Monk: .5[1d6](unarmed attacks), 3AC, perfect self, perfect slow fall, shining star (cha based). One major drawback I've discovered so far is that animal form and abundant step are incompatible. You also lose some of the level 18-20 monk enhancements.

    Gains from taking 3 levels of Druid: +30% base attack speed (scalable), +4 to base dmg, crit on 19-20 rather than merely 20, piercing and slashing damage with unarmed strike bonuses, takedown (trip using wis mod), Ram's might (+3 dmg), +3 to attack when flanking, vengeful hunter (passive boost to crit dmg before multipliers), fatal harrier! (stackable, scalable passive boost to attack speed), +2d6 sneak attack, and mainly fun playing as a plain wolf at any level.

    (I tried to post this to the OP, but for some reason it generated an error; I may have to start a new thread.)

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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02
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    Punch Drunk Love 3D-17M
    Level 20 Lawful Neutral Half-Elf Male
    (17 Monk \ 3 Druid) 
    Hit Points: 280
    Spell Points: 296 
    BAB: 14\14\19\24
    Fortitude: 17
    Reflex: 15
    Will: 18
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             14                    16
    Dexterity            16                    19
    Constitution         16                    18
    Intelligence          8                    10
    Wisdom               14                    20
    Charisma              8                     8
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    
    Level 1 (Druid)
    Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Call Wolf Companion
    Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Charm
    Feat: (Automatic) Druidic Oath
    Feat: (Automatic) Druidic Spontaneous Casting
    Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Keen Senses
    Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Mixed Heritage
    Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Social Graces (ALL)
    Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Immunity to Sleep
    Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Scimitar
    Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
    Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy
    Spell (1): Charm Animal
    Spell (1): Entangle
    Spell (1): Faerie Fire
    Spell (1): Jump
    Spell (1): Lesser Vigor
    Spell (1): Longstrider
    Spell (1): Magic Fang
    Spell (1): Maul
    Spell (1): Merfolk's Blessing
    Spell (1): Pass Without Trace
    Spell (1): Produce Flame
    Spell (1): Ram's Might
    Spell (1): Shillelagh
    Spell (1): Summon Nature's Ally I
    Spell (1): Takedown
    
    
    Level 2 (Druid)
    Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Wolf
    Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Goodberry
    Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Trip
    
    
    Level 3 (Druid)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    Spell (2): Align Fang
    Spell (2): Animal Trance
    Spell (2): Barkskin
    Spell (2): Bear's Endurance
    Spell (2): Bull's Strength
    Spell (2): Cat's Grace
    Spell (2): Creeping Cold
    Spell (2): Cure Light Wounds
    Spell (2): Eagle's Splendor
    Spell (2): Fire Trap
    Spell (2): Flame Blade
    Spell (2): Flaming Sphere
    Spell (2): Fog Cloud
    Spell (2): Fox's Cunning
    Spell (2): Gust of Wind
    Spell (2): Hold Animal
    Spell (2): Lesser Restoration
    Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
    Spell (2): Pack Presence
    Spell (2): Resist Energy
    Spell (2): Roar
    Spell (2): Splinterbolt
    Spell (2): Summon Nature's Ally II
    
    
    Level 4 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) AC Bonus
    Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
    Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
    Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
    Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Handaxe
    Feat: (Automatic) The Way of Air
    Feat: (Automatic) The Way of Fire
    Feat: (Automatic) The Way of Earth
    Feat: (Automatic) The Way of Water
    Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike
    
    
    Level 5 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
    Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
    Feat: (Automatic) Meditation
    
    
    Level 6 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
    Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
    Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves: Path of Harmonious Balance (ALL)
    Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves: Path of Inevitable Dominion (ALL)
    Feat: (Automatic) Still Mind
    
    
    Level 7 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Magic
    Feat: (Automatic) Slow Fall
    
    
    Level 8 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Purity of Body
    
    
    Level 9 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Precision
    Feat: (Automatic) Adept of Forms
    
    
    Level 10 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Wholeness of Body
    
    
    Level 11 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 12 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
    Feat: (Automatic) Improved Evasion
    
    
    Level 13 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Curse of the Void
    Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Lawful
    Feat: (Automatic) Moment of Clarity
    
    
    Level 14 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Body
    
    
    Level 15 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Abundant Step
    Feat: (Automatic) Master of Forms
    
    
    Level 16 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Soul
    
    
    Level 17 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 18 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Grandmaster of Forms
    Feat: (Automatic) Quivering Palm
    
    
    Level 19 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Adamantine
    
    
    Level 20 (Monk)
    Feat: (Automatic) Timeless Body
    Enhancement: Half-Elf - Half-Elven Versatile Nature (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Half-Elf - Human Adaptability: Wisdom (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Half-Elf - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Half-Elf - Human Greater Adaptability: Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Half-Elf - Human Versatility: Attack Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Half-Elf - Improved Dilettante (Rogue) (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Half-Elf - Sly Flourish (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Half-Elf - Improved Dilettante (Rogue) (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Half-Elf - Dilettante: Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Half-Elf - Improved Dilettante (Rogue) (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Nature's Warrior (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Instinctive Fighting (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Extra Wild Empathy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Extra Wild Empathy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Extra Wild Empathy (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Flight (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Flight (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Flight (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Vengeful Hunter (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Vengeful Hunter (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Vengeful Hunter (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Action Boost: Double Strike (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Action Boost: Double Strike (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Action Boost: Double Strike (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Fight (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Fight (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Fight (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Fatal Harrier (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Fatal Harrier (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Fatal Harrier (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Nature's Warrior (Drd) - Nature's Warrior Wisdom (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Shadow Veil (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Wave of Despair (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Subtlety (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Subtlety (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Subtlety (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Unbalancing Strike (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Flash Bang (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Flash Bang (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Flash Bang (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - No Mercy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - No Mercy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - No Mercy (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Crippling Strike (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Protection from Tainted Creatures (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 3)
    Last edited by savingsoul; 05-31-2014 at 02:33 PM.

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