Lord of Blades VS Eldritch Knight

[Darkstar1996]

with the new addition, I have been playing around and I cannot seem to find between the two who hits better (DPS) with both as WF (Id some how like to figure to make Human). Which is more forgiving (Easier to use) cause I would like to make one.

I do have all races, and 32pt. (No Past Life's) First Life.

Thank you for ur time.

[esoitl]

(I'm assuming in this post you mean Bladeforged Iconic when you say Lord of Blades)

I assume you realize the obvious problem being that a Lord of Blades can't be a Human...
If you're looking to make a Human, then your question is kind of moot. On the other hand, you can make a Lord of Blades that is also an Eldritch Knight... so all in all I'm kind of confused about what you're asking.

You probably have to elaborate more on what you're looking for to get a better answer.

[Darkstar1996]

(I'm assuming in this post you mean Bladeforged Iconic when you say Lord of Blades)

I assume you realize the obvious problem being that a Lord of Blades can't be a Human...
If you're looking to make a Human, then your question is kind of moot. On the other hand, you can make a Lord of Blades that is also an Eldritch Knight... so all in all I'm kind of confused about what you're asking.

You probably have to elaborate more on what you're looking for to get a better answer.

Sorry. I mean Lord of Blades as that's the Follower. That's what the build is called for the pure 20 FvS WF War Priest.


Id also like to add the Juggernaut into the list for the questions above (User Friendly, High DPS, etc) ALSO which will work best with a 32pt build.

[Mercureal]

The Juggernaut isn't really a firstlife build, it depends on a lot of different stats and is quitegear-reliant. You could probably do a 32-point version, but I don't know how effective it would be. There is a lot of discussion on the original build thread, if you haven't checked it out: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...ght=juggernaut

Your other references are still a bit unclear to me. By Lord of Blades, I'm guessing you're referring to the older WF melee FVS build? I don't believe that's been updated in quite a while. And Eldritch Knight is an enhancement tree, not the name of a specific build.

[Melllllkor]

I have not updated that build for a while. When the new destiny came out, I had hope it might be a viable EE build again, so I dusted him off and gave it the ol' college try. Turns out it is not even remotely close to being an EE performer. My Lord of Blades build is still great for Epic Hard and lower, but for EE it just cant cut the mustard. It comes down to saves being too low, and the new destiny more or less requires you to stand still while fighting, which you just can't do in EE content with this build. So, with sadness, I retired it again. Another pure build that has now been eclipsed by hybrid builds. I suspect something like a 16Fvs/2monk/2pally build would now be optimal for a melee FvS, but I simply lost desire to do this build anymore.

-JR

[Seikojin]

I have not updated that build for a while. When the new destiny came out, I had hope it might be a viable EE build again, so I dusted him off and gave it the ol' college try. Turns out it is not even remotely close to being an EE performer. My Lord of Blades build is still great for Epic Hard and lower, but for EE it just cant cut the mustard. It comes down to saves being too low, and the new destiny more or less requires you to stand still while fighting, which you just can't do in EE content with this build. So, with sadness, I retired it again. Another pure build that has now been eclipsed by hybrid builds. I suspect something like a 16Fvs/2monk/2pally build would now be optimal for a melee FvS, but I simply lost desire to do this build anymore.

-JR

How could your saves be low? You get cha bonus to them, in addition to whatever you put into them from stats and gear. Splashing pally is the sure fire way of having crazy saves.

[SirValentine]

How could your saves be low? You get cha bonus to them, in addition to whatever you put into them from stats and gear. Splashing pally is the sure fire way of having crazy saves.

The specific build in question, Mellkor's "FvS Lord of Blades Healer/Buffer/Fighter", which the OP asked about and Mellkor answered about, is a pure FvS build. It does NOT get Cha bonus to saves.

Mellkor did just say, right in what you quoted, that a hybrid Pally- and Monk-splash might work well.

[unbongwah]

Frankly, the melee bonuses in EK are fairly weak compared to, say, Kensei or any other "real" DPS tree. I actually think the survivability bonuses are more useful (e.g., Imp Mage Armor & Shield, Arcane Barrier, stacking energy resists). I see the tree as a decent complement to a melee / caster hybrid, but not a central focus.

[serthcore]

I have played both with almost-maxed gear and they are similar in power, specially if you play them as hybrids.
On the eldritch knight i went wizard/pal/fighter with as much enchant dc as posible while blitzing.
On the lord of blades i went fvs/pal/monk focused on cha, divine crusader and some AOE spells like energy burst fire.
And both were decent on EE (but with max gear, destinies and past lifes).

Melee side of both builds was lacking, so i guess it depends on what else you could add to the build like cc or AOE spell dmg.