Ninja training and vorpal strikes

[MorteCerta]

Ninja training (enhancements) + vorpal strikes (epic feat)

Can i use my dex to hit and damage with my unarmed stikes if i have both?

[Zoda]

Ninja training (enhancements) + vorpal strikes (epic feat)

Can i use my dex to hit and damage with my unarmed stikes if i have both?

Nope:

Advanced Ninja Training: While you are centered, you can use your Dexterity modifier for damage with piercing and slashing melee weapons and shuriken.

Handwraps are not "weapons".

[GeoffWatson]

Nope:

Advanced Ninja Training: While you are centered, you can use your Dexterity modifier for damage with piercing and slashing melee weapons and shuriken.

Handwraps are not "weapons".

It was originally intended to, but the devs couldn't get it to work, so they changed the description.

Geoff.

[TeacherSyn]

It was originally intended to, but the devs couldn't get it to work, so they changed the description.

Geoff.

I don't think that's correct.

The tree design was meant to favor specific weapons, not unarmed. That's what the Shintao is for.

If you can show a source for that rationale, it would support the case.

In any case, any Monk can train the Epic feat, Vorpal Strikes, to gain vorpal on unarmed attacks. Alternately, Vorpal handwraps now appear for Heroic characters. DEX to Damage, I'm sure, was meant only for specific weapons. Clarification in the text changed, perhaps, but not the intended weapons to be used with those abilities.

The Ninja Spy gains natural vorpals once its last core ability at level 20 is trained, and only with shuriken and piercing/slashing weapons that leave you centered, never handwraps.

[Zoda]

It was originally intended to, but the devs couldn't get it to work, so they changed the description.

Geoff.

Iirc, it used to work on wraps, but it was bugged and soon fixed.

[quiete]

Iirc, it used to work on wraps, but it was bugged and soon fixed.

I can confirm it worked with "piercing" handwraps, ppl complained about vorpal strikes--> they changed the description

[Munkenmo]

I can confirm it worked with "piercing" handwraps, ppl complained about vorpal strikes--> they changed the description

I can confirm this too, and to boot they also ended it, and ninja poison working with piercing handwraps.