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    Default Most cleave type attacks on one character?

    I'm trying to figure out the most cleave type attacks on one toon, as a mental exercise.

    Human Wizard 1, Barbarian 3, Druid 16, Epic 8

    Eldritch Knight Innate Cleave for 10sp
    Whirlwind Attack, Cleave, and Great Cleave (by level 21)
    Nature's Warrior - Alpha Strike for 6 SP
    Frenzied Berserker - Supreme Cleave for 10hp
    Divine Crusader Tier 5 - Strike Down for 5sp
    (Tier 3 Twist) Lay Waste
    (Tier 2 Twist) Momentum Swing (to recharge Lay Waste faster, if needed)

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    Can we squeeze any more in there?

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    Awesome! A whirling dervish build! I love it.

    I wonder ... since you are going to have 100% splash damage (assuming all of your attacks are cleaves) would you still take THF for the DPS or a shield for defenses? Probably not TWF or SWF because I doubt offhand proc or melee speed apply when cleaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoffhanna View Post
    Awesome! A whirling dervish build! I love it.

    I wonder ... since you are going to have 100% splash damage (assuming all of your attacks are cleaves) would you still take THF for the DPS or a shield for defenses? Probably not TWF or SWF because I doubt offhand proc or melee speed apply when cleaning.
    That build uses all its feats to level 21 to get Cleave, Great Cleave and Whirlwind attack. The only feats left are at 24 and 27.

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    If you went rog instead of druid, you could pick up Sweeping Strikes; I was thinking WF wiz 12 / barb 3 / rog 5 as an offbeat staff build.

    The problem with Whirlwind is the five-feat cost; that's tough to squeeze in on a build w/out monk or ftr bonus feats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    If you went rog instead of druid, you could pick up Sweeping Strikes; I was thinking WF wiz 12 / barb 3 / rog 5 as an offbeat staff build.

    The problem with Whirlwind is the five-feat cost; that's tough to squeeze in on a build w/out monk or ftr bonus feats.
    Too true. If I eliminated Whirlwind Attack from the list, I'd be able to create a more viable, balanced character, but in this exercise, I'm just trying to make as many cleave attacks as possible. If I *DO* decide to make a cleave attack toon, I most definitely would put whirlwind attack at the top of the 'eliminate' list.

    I must have missed Sweeping Strikes! That is a GREAT ability.

    The +10W damage from Alpha Strike is hard to pass up though. It's the most powerful cleave attack.

    Human Wiz 1/Rog 3/Druid 16?

    That would give the same amount of cleaves, but Sweeping Strikes has good CC, so you'd have two trip attacks--that and Lay Waste.

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    Wizard 1, Barbarian 5, Rogue 3 with remaining 11 levels into Wizard to get Wraith Form.

    Eldritch Knight Innate Cleave for 10sp
    Cleave, and Great Cleave
    Frenzied Berserker Tier 3 - Supreme Cleave for 10hp
    Frenzied Berserker Tier 5 - Tantrum for 25hp (requires Combat Expertise and Improved Trip)
    Thief-Acrobat Tier 3 - Sweeping Strikes
    Divine Crusader Tier 5 - Strike Down for 5sp
    (Tier 3 Twist) Lay Waste
    (Tier 2 Twist) Momentum Swing (to recharge Lay Waste faster, if needed)

    Took out Alpha Strike and Whirlwind Attack, avoids animal forms but has to use quarterstaff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keowyn View Post
    Wizard 1, Barbarian 5, Rogue 3 with remaining 11 levels into Wizard to get Wraith Form.

    Eldritch Knight Innate Cleave for 10sp
    Cleave, and Great Cleave
    Frenzied Berserker Tier 3 - Supreme Cleave for 10hp
    Frenzied Berserker Tier 5 - Tantrum for 25hp (requires Combat Expertise and Improved Trip)
    Thief-Acrobat Tier 3 - Sweeping Strikes
    Divine Crusader Tier 5 - Strike Down for 5sp
    (Tier 3 Twist) Lay Waste
    (Tier 2 Twist) Momentum Swing (to recharge Lay Waste faster, if needed)

    Took out Alpha Strike and Whirlwind Attack, avoids animal forms but has to use quarterstaff.
    another 8 cleave build. Tantrum? That's an interesting cleave. Guess I have to put more thought into it.

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    You guys have been cool. I hope more people chime in with cleave combos.

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