Update 22 - Swashbuckler Tree Preview Discussion

[Mryal]

Quickened hypno then ranged Coup de Grace.

Round em up in a disco ball and IPS a Coup de Grace.

that's just off the top of my head.

Two saves for all.On a bard.All spells mentioned need to bypass SR.All spells mentioned need enchantment DC, wich youre losing 3 from not taking SS tier 5's.Youre also losing 3 spell pen wich is needed to hit all of those.Youre also losing enchant DC from feats needed to hit those because you took IPS and other range feats instead.The fact that you took IPS means you likely didnt start with max CHA, so you have lower DC.

If you multiclassed to take IPS for free, that means you lost caster lv, wich means you lost spell pen to land em.

Youre also missing spell pen feats to land em.Youre also missing bard/wizard past life feats to land em.You're also missing 2-3 twists for enchant DC's to make those spells work.
You're also missing that even if you had all of that (wich is impossible), a majority of mobs have will too high for you to even hit em with a CC spell on a bard on EE.
Clearly people complaining never played a bard