Trollerific Suggetion for Epic Green Steel

[doubledge]

I'd be fine with just a lightning strike augment... however if these changes came around there'd be a huge influx of crafted TTS weapons... heh. imagine a DECENT weapon with uncapped TTS.

[Bridge_Dweller]

i'd be fine with just a lightning strike augment... However if these changes came around there'd be a huge influx of crafted tts weapons... Heh. Imagine a decent weapon with uncapped tts.

tts?

[Silken-Akira]

+1 for the idea
(what does disturb me more the last month or so, is the fact that you are saying way too much things that just come over too smart for a Troll. You sure aren't a crossbreed or something?)

[SaIamander]

tts?

Trap teh Soul!!

[doubledge]

tts?

TTs weapons are dual shard shock/unholy.

Dps wise they are pathetic. A sample weapon would be shock/evil burst/shocking blast.

TTs adds a proc that sometimes casts "trap the soul" without cost on-hit, and since that cost it curcumvents is so massive, it's an interesting item.

(TTS is like Finger of death except much more expensive and less versatile. It also can hit undead.)

[Bridge_Dweller]

TTs weapons are dual shard shock/unholy.

Dps wise they are pathetic. A sample weapon would be shock/evil burst/shocking blast.

TTs adds a proc that sometimes casts "trap the soul" without cost on-hit, and since that cost it curcumvents is so massive, it's an interesting item.

(TTS is like Finger of death except much more expensive and less versatile. It also can hit undead.)

And has a save with a pathetic DC.

[doubledge]

And has a save with a pathetic DC.

By less versatile i mean "anything above level 20"

[MrChipinator]

What options would these augments add for casters? Do not think we need more spell power or crit chance, so I'm curious if it would be +DC's to cover what your TF item might not have? Also, would Concordant Opposition or other guards really be worth it? The amount of times a Displaced/blah blah caster gets hit is already intentionally low, and when they do get hit it's for 150+ damage...so how much SP or damage returned would they get back for such hefty poundings?

While I love the basis of the augment idea, I suppose I'm just worried that it will turn into a "Lit II / Min II / Conc Opp" and any others wouldn't be nearly as good.

[Bridge_Dweller]

While I love the basis of the augment idea, I suppose I'm just worried that it will turn into a "Lit II / Min II / Conc Opp" and any others wouldn't be nearly as good.

Lightning II would be strong, that's pretty much a given.

Mineral II would be as well IF mob/boss DR actually made a comeback to the point where bypassing it made a difference. Hopefully the level cap increases will see us fighting more fiends and less CR70 rats so that might become valuable.

Earth-grab would be garbage with the DCs as low as they are. It would need to have the DC raised to a 60 or more to matter.

Triple-Positive would make for the mother of all undead-beaters.

What rogue wouldn't want radiance on there CITW/TF weapons?

The most common GS made back in the day would still retain it's value if this new system were implemented.

[MrChipinator]

Those are good points, but I think that so long as all DC's were appropriately adjusted, and they had nifty little bonus effects, perhaps Radiance II could give a special stack of vulnerability that only worked for sneak damage, I would see how it would pay to have a wide variation of such augments/weapons slots.

[doubledge]

What rogue wouldn't want radiance on there CITW/TF weapons?

You mean, like Celestia?

[Zibowskij]

Great idea
/signed

[Allorian]

Love the idea

/signed

[Ryethiel]

"GreenSteel Ruby of HJEAL ME!"

Honestly though... All the inevitable Power Creep aside. I am absolutely LOVING the bloody hell out of this idea!!! It would also be eternally fun to play 'The Shroud' at Cap, and actually have it be challenging once again!

/Signed with the blood of a Halfling.

[Merlin-ator]

That's a brilliant idea! One suggestion, though - Give GS augments a "Marked by Shavarath" effect (on items/armor) or a "Taint of Shavarath" (on weapons) when slotted. Alternately, augment blanks could only be available on epic Shroud 20th lists. Just because power creep has gone full ****** doesn't mean we still can't try to play psychiatrist.

Marked by Shavarath - Gives the effect of wearing two uncleansed GS items. One Essence of Cleansing reverts this to a normal Taint of Shavarath, another Essence removes it completely.

[doubledge]

That's a brilliant idea! One suggestion, though - Give GS augments a "Claimed by Shavarath" effect (on items/armor) or a "Taint of Shavarath" (on weapons) when slotted. Alternately, augment blanks could only be available on epic Shroud 20th lists. Just because power creep has gone full ****** doesn't mean we still can't try to play psychiatrist.

Claimed by Shavarath - Gives the effect of wearing two uncleansed GS items. One Essence of Cleansing reverts this to a normal Taint of Shavarath, another Essence removes it completely.

I'd also throw on "this item gives a negative level to good aligned wielders and unequips itself upon death" onto claimed by shavarath as well.

As for the original idea, it appears i haven't signed it already.
/signed.

[soulaeon]

/signed

I love this idea. They could be purple or orange so that we arent filling up all the lesser colored slots with these.
At level 27, I have yet to replace my Concordant Opposition goggles.

[Bridge_Dweller]

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/signed with the blood of a halfling.
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lol

[LightBear]

Once in a while I feel charitable, today I will share my latest brilliant idea with you mammals free of charge.

Okay . . . we all want Epic Shroud with Epic Green Steel.

BUT . . . Turbine just released a new pack with two raid with craftable weapons. If Turbine did make Epic Green Steel they would either need to make it weaker than Thunderforged, in which case nobody would bother, or stronger which would invalidate the Thunderforged content. One way or another BOTH options are bad.

Where Turbine has gone horribly wrong since MOTU is loot isn't worth the pixels it's printed on since almost everything gets invalidated and update or two later or was complete garbage in the first place. Every update makes the end-game smaller instead of larger, this is a terrible way to do this.

The 'old' Turbine didn't do this. Pre-MoTU people were still running Titan, Reaver, VOD, HoX, etc . . . for loot because though newer loot was available the old raids still had stuff worth pursuing. Even LoB didn't invalidate Green Steel, it's added to the game instead of making it smaller.

The last thing the game needs right now is to be made smaller . . . so how do you add Epic Green Steel to the game without making the loot that came before it worthless?

The answer is Green Steel AUGMENTS and not items. Instead of making a Epic Lightning II Khopesh you'd make a Epic Lightning II Red Crystal that would add the Holy/shock/shock/Lightning Strike to whatever weapons you slot it in.

Same with items . . . Blue or yellow Crystals. Slot Con-op into a slot on one of your other items.

This solution will give people something to grind for WITHOUT INVALIDATING ANY OTHER CONTENT. Makes the game larger, not smaller.

So there it is mammals. I have many other brilliant ideas that can save DDO but the rest aren't free. But as always, my rates are reasonable.

Will you stop posting my suggestions before I have worked them out myself!
Geesh, what has this world come to if you can't even trust a troll anymore.

But you forgot the part where I said it would make any item you slot it into ml:30.

[theis]

I haven't ran shroud in ages.. cause i dont nees to.. but gs augs.. id be down... great idea