Sedious - Self healing DPS tank.

[Caprice]

(Various good reasons for going Monk rather than the OP's split)

Your points are valid, but sometimes not splashing Monk is a reward in and of itself. ;-)

I am interested in the "fools gold" rationale and will go searching out said other forums. If the argument is comparing it to a TWF Drunk then I agree that Shield Doublestrike pales in comparison, but the devs have stated that TWF working in Wild Shape is a bug and so it should be fixed... in a year or two.

[achitophel]

Without the Dodge i lose knockdown immunity.

Without 13 Druid most of the self healing is lost (and neg level / stat regen)
Without 1 Wizard i lose (not only the doublestrike) but 10%AC and a Cleave - not to mention Obscuring Mist, Shield and Prot vs Evil!

Evasion would only be useful with higher saves and Epic Reflexes

I would like to say that there is a threshold of AC and PRR that i am happy with, but actually i just keep wanting more (was 230ish/200ish last i checked, don't have a SS for you tho!)

[achitophel]

Stunning Blow It is mentioned for Heroic Content more than Epic Content, i take Anvil of Thunder in LD but the focus is spamming the 5 cleaves for AoE damage - i rarely hit Anvil of Thunder.

Extend would actually be a good choice - especially since the wizard buffs have low durations

[Munkenmo]

Extend would actually be a good choice - especially since the wizard buffs have low durations

The wiz buffs that get auto extended to 5 mins wont be effected by extend.

The prot evil is frustrating, despite the fact it says 5mins, it only protects you from command for 1 minute. (Extend will boost that to 2mins) shield / night shield work the same way regarding their magic missile immunity.

I would like to say that there is a threshold of AC and PRR that i am happy with, but actually i just keep wanting more (was 230ish/200ish last i checked, don't have a SS for you tho!)

Fair enough, there is no way a monk splash would compete with raw numbers, I wish the devs would address the stupid that is the current diminishing returns system. I dont feel like your rewarded enough pushing for max ac / prr which is why I always resort to monk splashes.

I'd welcome a change.

[maddong]

I thought you get the offhands in animal form even with a shield equipped? Or do you have to use handwraps or dual wield to get offhands in animal form? I'm just asking if you need TWF, ITWF, GTWF in your spread....

[Caprice]

I thought you get the offhands in animal form even with a shield equipped? Or do you have to use handwraps or dual wield to get offhands in animal form? I'm just asking if you need TWF, ITWF, GTWF in your spread....

TWF does currently grant you offhand hits while in Wild Shape. The devs have declared that this a bug - I'm trying to find the exact post but drawing a blank at the moment. You will get higher DPS if you take advantage of the bug. This build seems to me to be an excellent setup for trying to get as much out of wolf form as one can without taking advantage of the bug and instead leveraging what you can get from a shield. It is left as an exercise to the reader as to which choice is preferable to you personally. ;-)

[Caprice]

Without 1 Wizard i lose (not only the doublestrike) but 10%AC and a Cleave - not to mention Obscuring Mist, Shield and Prot vs Evil!

I hadn't thought of using Obscuring Mist. Are you using that instead of a Blur item? I figured that your go-to AoE would be Sleet Storm - free Sneak Attack damage + 50% concealment + 25% slow + playing havoc with the AI on most trash mobs is pretty solid. Or do you use Sleet Storm on trash and Obscuring Mist on bosses?

[Cardtrick]

I hadn't thought of using Obscuring Mist. Are you using that instead of a Blur item?

Unlike a Blur item (or Sleet Storm), Obscuring Mist works on virtually anything. Bosses aren't immune. True Seeing doesn't negate. It's really nice for mostly-stationary boss fights.

[unbongwah]

TWF does currently grant you offhand hits while in Wild Shape. The devs have declared that this a bug - I'm trying to find the exact post but drawing a blank at the moment.

There might be a more recent update, but: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5110235