I have to LR+ my ex bard - need advice

[avepepix]

I need to fix my bard, since my last shooter was switched to a tempest/assasin and i want to play with an AA I was trying to do something playable and fun.
My big doubt its about weapon bond with bows, so thinking in theres no problem there I create this test toon

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Level 28 Chaotic Good Half-Elf Male
(2 Fighter \ 6 Barbarian \ 12 Ranger \ 8 Epic) 
Hit Points: 364
Spell Points: 140 
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 17
Will: 7

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 28)           (Level 28)
Strength             16                 20                   21
Dexterity            16                 21                   22
Constitution         14                 14                   14
Intelligence         12                 12                   12
Wisdom               10                 10                   10
Charisma              8                  8                    8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 16
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 28)          (Level 28)
Balance               3                  6                   14
Bluff                -1                 -1                    7
Concentration         4                  4                   12
Diplomacy            -1                 -1                    7
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                 -1                    7
Heal                  0                  0                    8
Hide                  3                  6                   14
Intimidate           -1                 -1                    7
Jump                  3                  5                   13
Listen                0                  0                   11
Move Silently         3                  6                   14
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                  n/a
Perform              n/a               n/a                    n/a
Repair                1                  1                    9
Search                1                  1                   15
Spellcraft            1                  1                    9
Spot                  0                  0                   14
Swim                  3                  5                   13
Tumble                n/a               n/a                  n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a               n/a                    n/a

Level 1 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Keen Senses
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Mixed Heritage
Feat: (Automatic) Half-Elven Social Graces (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Immunity to Sleep
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Archer's Focus
Feat: (Automatic) Diehard


Level 4 (Ranger)
Spell (1): Camouflage
Spell (1): Jump
Spell (1): Longstrider
Spell (1): Merfolk's Blessing
Spell (1): Ram's Might
Spell (1): Resist Energy
Spell (1): Summon Nature's Ally I
Spell (1): Tumble


Level 5 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Heroic Durability


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot


Level 7 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Rage
Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Rage


Level 8 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Automatic) Damage Reduction


Level 9 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency


Level 11 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Mobility
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Metalline Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Shock Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Awareness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Awareness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Awareness (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Dispelling Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Flaming Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Frost Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Weapon Bond (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Resistance (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Parrying Bond (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Parrying Bond (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Parrying Bond (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Uncanny Dodger (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Uncanny Dodger (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Uncanny Dodger (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Awareness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Awareness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Awareness (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Lessons of Travel (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Lessons of Travel (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Arcane Encumbrance (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Arcane Encumbrance (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Arcane Encumbrance (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Kinetic Bond (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Kinetic Bond (Rank 2)


Level 12 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Selected) Power Critical
Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge
Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge (Dodge Bonus)


Level 13 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Wild Empathy


Level 14 (Ranger)
Spell (2): Barkskin
Spell (2): Bear's Endurance
Spell (2): Camouflage, Mass
Spell (2): Cat's Grace
Spell (2): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (2): Hold Animal
Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
Spell (2): Protection from Energy
Spell (2): Snare
Spell (2): Spike Growth
Spell (2): Summon Nature's Ally II


Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Shot on the Run
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion


Level 16 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Human


Level 17 (Ranger)
Feat: (Automatic) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Precise Shot
Spell (3): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (3): Neutralize Poison
Spell (3): Remove Disease
Spell (3): Summon Nature's Ally III
Spell (3): Wild Instincts


Level 18 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Precision


Level 19 (Barbarian)


Level 20 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Half-Elven Versatile Nature (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Human Adaptability: Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Elf - Improved Dilettante (Rogue) (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Dispelling Shot (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Shattermantle Shot (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Terror Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Soul Magic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Banishing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing  Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing  Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Paralyzing  Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Smiting Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Corrosive Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arrow of Slaying (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Improved Elemental Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Guarding Bond (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Guarding Bond (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Guarding Bond (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Lessons of Travel (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Bond of Retribution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Kinetic Bond (Rank 3)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Combat Archery


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Holy Strike


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Ruin


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Doubleshot
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Aligned Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Occult Slayer (Bar) - Elemental Defense (Rank 1)

What do you think?

[avepepix]

No one can help me?

[unbongwah]

My only question is: how do you plan to LR a bard into a triple-class with no bard in it? You can't violate the three-class limit during the LR process, which means you have to eliminate all bard lvls before you're allowed to take that third class.

As for the build itself: there's no need to take Prec Shot as it's auto-granted at rgr 4; Power Crit isn't worth it which means you don't need WF:Ranged; same with D/M/SotR chain. Combat Archery is nice, but not if you have to sacrifice STR to get; I prefer to invest more into melee instead. Doubleshot ED feat actually isn't so great on an AA b/c of the Doubleshot penalty from Manyshot.

[avepepix]

My only question is: how do you plan to LR a bard into a triple-class with no bard in it? You can't violate the three-class limit during the LR process, which means you have to eliminate all bard lvls before you're allowed to take that third class.

As for the build itself: there's no need to take Prec Shot as it's auto-granted at rgr 4; Power Crit isn't worth it which means you don't need WF:Ranged; same with D/M/SotR chain. Combat Archery is nice, but not if you have to sacrifice STR to get; I prefer to invest more into melee instead. Doubleshot ED feat actually isn't so great on an AA b/c of the Doubleshot penalty from Manyshot.

Its an LR+ so i can take any class, i cant change the race

[merridyan]

Its an LR+ so i can take any class, i cant change the race

I assume you mean LR+20. You may want to do a bit of forum research on this. At no point in the LR process can character have more than 3 potential classes. This includes the levels you haven't yet taken while LR'ing.

[avepepix]

so, epic count as a class =( and i cant take the 2 fighters lvls

[avepepix]

I assume you mean LR+20. You may want to do a bit of forum research on this. At no point in the LR process can character have more than 3 potential classes. This includes the levels you haven't yet taken while LR'ing.

Yes its a LR+20