Dragonmarks In DDO

[Enoach]

When I first started playing and dragonmarks were available I used them on my Human Paladin (Mark of Sentinel), but just the Least Mark

Later when Half-Elf and Favored Soul were available I used Mark of Storm (Spending for all three feats), these are harder to distinguish someone having especially in upper levels if you run with Lightning spec'd sorcerers and druids. I went a few lives without them, but I have returned this 5th Life to using them.

I like them as an option and even better now that they are 1 Feat plus enhancements.

[Gizeh]

Question on the elf dragonmark, displacement. If you go pure fighter, you wont have sp pool. You can use extend (spending a feat, but fighters have feats to spare) without an sp pool? Or you picking up any item with sp do it, or would you need to add magical training (burning another feat)?

Even when metamagic feats are applied to dragonmarks they do not cost any SP. However you can only take metamagic feats if you have at least one level in a spellcasting class.

In regard to the OP: I made a halfling dragonmark warrior a while ago, originally a pure fighter and after some refinement (and after the enhancement pass) he's now a fighter 12/monk 6/fvs 2. Also, after the enhancement pass I managed to fit in the healing dragonmark line on my pure halfling monk.

Edit: It might also be worth mentioning that not only metamagic feats can affect dragonmarks, but spellpower gear as well. For example hafling healing can be improved by wearing a devotion item.

[Memnir]

Before or after the changes?

Both.

[FestusHood]

I had an elven kensei before the enhancement pass that had the elven mark. Back then, it only took two feats to have displacement, and no ap investment, so on a fighter it was no big deal

I chose one level of bard to get the extend metamagic. This also had the advantage of opening up umd as a class skill. With the new enhancements for one point you could pick up skaldic rage for an extra +4 strength that doesn't prevent clicky use.

[Thrudh]

Farm a Epic Chimera's Crown or get the Dragonmarked necklace & ring, those give extra uses per rest.

Not enough power on those items anymore to make it worthwhile. I have the crown... I do use it for a little while when I eTR... The necklace and the ring are a set bonus and nowhere near worth losing two slots.

We need NEW ways to get more uses per rest (I'd prefer a regen even more)

[Chai]

Not enough power on those items anymore to make it worthwhile. I have the crown... I do use it for a little while when I eTR... The necklace and the ring are a set bonus and nowhere near worth losing two slots.

We need NEW ways to get more uses per rest (I'd prefer a regen even more)

Similar to bard anthem. put it lower level in an Ed tree so it can be twisted and everyone has access to it.

[Stoner81]

Not enough power on those items anymore to make it worthwhile. I have the crown... I do use it for a little while when I eTR... The necklace and the ring are a set bonus and nowhere near worth losing two slots.

We need NEW ways to get more uses per rest (I'd prefer a regen even more)

Couldn't you swap them in before using a shrine and then swap back afterwards and not lose the extra ones?

Stoner81.

[bennyson]

Similar to bard anthem. put it lower level in an Ed tree so it can be twisted and everyone has access to it.

Dragonmarks can only be accessible through six of the eight playable races (Drow & Warforged are markless)

It would be rather silly to have this on an Epic Destiny tree. Race tree or an item would make more sense.

[unbongwah]

Couldn't you swap them in before using a shrine and then swap back afterwards and not lose the extra ones?

No: if you swap the Crown out before using up all of your DMs, you lose the bonus uses from the Crown.

[bennyson]

No: if you swap the Crown out before using up all of your DMs, you lose the bonus uses from the Crown.

That is sad...

[bennyson]

Say, why is that the Dragonmark line in the Human tree is...err...Greater Dragonmark Spell-less?

I ask this question because:

1. Half~Elf, Elf, and Dwarf get "special" racial spells that are powered by their related Dragonmarks at the fourth tire abilities.

2. Halflings and Half~Orc also get "special" racial spells as well, however, they can be acquired at tire two of their racial tree.

So why is that Humans, the bearers of not one but FOUR different Dragonmarks, don't get any "special" racial spells that the other Dragonmarked races get?

[unbongwah]

It's all part of Turbine's insidious effort to keep humans a gimp race and make everyone play dwarves & elves, the true OP choices!

[Gizeh]

Say, why is that the Dragonmark line in the Human tree is...err...Greater Dragonmark Spell-less?

I ask this question because:

1. Half~Elf, Elf, and Dwarf get "special" racial spells that are powered by their related Dragonmarks at the fourth tire abilities.

2. Halflings and Half~Orc also get "special" racial spells as well, however, they can be acquired at tire two of their racial tree.

So why is that Humans, the bearers of not one but FOUR different Dragonmarks, don't get any "special" racial spells that the other Dragonmarked races get?

Probably because humans already get to choose one out of four Dragonmarks, which by itself makes human Dragonmarks more versatile than non-human ones, even without added abilities.

[bennyson]

It's all part of Turbine's insidious effort to keep humans a gimp race and make everyone play dwarves & elves, the true OP choices!

Probably because humans already get to choose one out of four Dragonmarks, which by itself makes human Dragonmarks more versatile than non-human ones, even without added abilities.

I see.

[Bernaise]

Dragonmark of Making was rendered pointless after the Enhancement Pass. Previously, any class could (if they chose) invest Action Points into recruiting and developing their own Iron Defender. Now it's Artificers only. You do get a +3 bonus towards crafting, but don't personally find that very compelling for the loss of a Feat slot. I guess it's better than buying the Repair Skill Feat, not that anyone would.

[unbongwah]

If you're making a crafter, human arty w/DM of Making is the way to go; otherwise I agree there's not much point to that DM.

[bronzzedragin182011]

Dragonmarks do not require spellpoints to use - they are clicky abilities, which is why they come in handy on some builds.
The bigger issue is that pure Fighters don't have an option to pick up Extend as a feat, I believe. You'd need to multiclass at least one level of a spell casting class to get it.


To the OP's point of why they're not used more... They were nearly unusable for most of DDO's history; only recent changes have made them more user-friendly. But, even with the changes, they are mostly for niche or flavor builds. And I say that as somebody who has uses them often in my builds.

I have 5 characters who have dragonmarks and I`d have to say they`re quite useful ! Of course those characters are low level atm ...
They`re not a must have but they are useful !

[bennyson]

Do Dragonmarks work in Anti-Magic fields?

I ask this because am curious as to what type of magic Dragonmarks are considered to be.

Are they Spell-Like or Extraordinary abilities?

[autochthon]

Do Dragonmarks work in Anti-Magic fields?

I ask this because am curious as to what type of magic Dragonmarks are considered to be.

Are they Spell-Like or Extraordinary abilities?

Least Dragonmarks
Least Dragonmarks grant a +2 bonus to a skill associated to the power of the dragonmark. They also bestow the ability to use a spell-like ability three times per rest. The caster level of the dragonmark ability is equal to your character level, and the DC is equal to 10+level of the spell+your Charisma modifier. Once a player has selected a Least Dragonmark, he cannot select any other one. A character can only be dragonmarked by one mark at a time.

SLA, just as in PnP

That said I rather like the mark of finding (after I figured out how it "worked"). Needs to be a bit better at giving useful stuff, but it's cool. Just wish marks had more uses (making in particular, if it was closer to unlimited it would be a pretty cool artificer feat)

[Thrudh]

Do Dragonmarks work in Anti-Magic fields?

I ask this because am curious as to what type of magic Dragonmarks are considered to be.

Are they Spell-Like or Extraordinary abilities?

Yes, they work in anti-magic fields... My dragonmark heals used to save the day when the beholders came out in Hound.