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    Default Update 22 Adjustments to Bacon

    Good morning, everyone!

    We realize that Bacon is a very important topic for players, and that balancing Bacon is easier said than done. That said, we've implemented the following changes for Update 22:

    - The fat content of Bacon was too high, and is being reduced by 25%. This fix will apply retroactively to existing Bacon.
    - Deconstructing your Bacon now provides 100 Bacon Bits (formerly 50).
    - The Grandmaster of Bacon Epic Destiny now has two new abilities:
    -- Sizzle: Perform a Melee attack with 1[w] extra damage. On Hit: Apply a stack of Burning.
    -- Aura of Bacon: You project a 15 meter Aura of Bacon, providing +(2/4/6) Bacon Bonus to Charisma for all nearby allies, but Carnivorous (and Omnivorous) enemies in your Aura are drawn to you automatically.
    - Enemies are no longer using Bacon, and Hirelings now carry 20% more Bacon.

    This is just the first pass on U22 Bacon changes, and we'd love your feedback on the adjustments presented here. We'll keep you updated with any further changes as they develop.

    Thanks!
    Last edited by Steelstar; 04-01-2014 at 11:20 AM.

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    Is there any update on the DC of the Red Bacon's Breath ability? Last time I checked there was no save observed. Also the range seems to be a bit too large.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelstar View Post
    Good morning, everyone!

    We realize that Bacon is a very important topic for players, and that balancing Bacon is easier said than done. That said, we've implemented the following changes for Update 22:

    - The fat content of Bacon was too high, and is being reduced by 25%. This fix will apply retroactively to existing Bacon.
    - Deconstructing your Bacon now provides 100 Bacon Bits (formerly 50).
    - The Grandmaster of Bacon Epic Destiny now has two new abilities:
    - Sizzle: Perform a Melee attack with 1[w] extra damage. On Hit: Apply a stack of Burning.
    - Aura of Bacon: You project a 15 meter Aura of Bacon, providing +(2/4/6) Bacon Bonus to Charisma for all nearby allies, but Carnivorous (and Omnivorous) enemies in your Aura are drawn to you automatically.
    - Enemies are no longer using Bacon, and Hirelings now carry 20% more Bacon.

    This is just the first pass on U22 Bacon changes, and we'd love your feedback on the adjustments presented here. We'll keep you updated with any further changes as they develop.

    Thanks!
    Now, that are the changes exactly needed! Good job. Actually, no information on Tasty Ham? Does the Ham get forgotten again or do we get an update on Ham too? Thank you for the info.

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    I thought you were finally going to nerf Adrenabacon so that it only works with pan weapons?

    This is not WAI...even the description says:

    Adrenabacon: 300% damage on successful pan attack. Cooldown 6 seconds.

    Not ham throwing attacks, not ManyFork...pan attacks. Yet everyone only makes a 10k BaconBits with ManyFork Baconchers because it's not WAI.


    What's going on with the Divine Bacon Crusader Epic Frytiny? I was promised to finally have an official divine Fry Caster.


    Ugh...more nerfs...not enough fixes. ^^

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    Don't we wish it could be like this:
    The fat content of Bacon was too high, and is being reduced by 25%. This fix will apply retroactively to existing Bacon.

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    It is working as intended that Bacon is both Primal as well as Divine. Rumors of upcoming Arcane Bacon are half-baked.

    For this update, we're prepared to ham it up.

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    Thank you for these Bacon Related changes Turbine.



    -League of Extraordinary Ham

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post
    It is working as intended that Bacon is both Primal as well as Divine. Rumors of upcoming Arcane Bacon are half-baked.

    For this update, we're prepared to ham it up.
    Vargouille, I would settle if the Pale Masters could run with their undead zombie Bacon pets again... Please make sure the Arcane Bacon get´s ready for dishing sometimes soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellllboy View Post
    Thank you for these Bacon Related changes Turbine.



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    Yes, Thank you Turbine

    -Hams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post
    It is working as intended that Bacon is both Primal as well as Divine. Rumors of upcoming Arcane Bacon are half-baked.

    For this update, we're prepared to ham it up.

    What do you mean Arcane Bacon is half baked?


    In Grills and Forks 3.14, ForgottenBacon FryDieties and Baconigods, there is an entire list of bacon arcane. With 10th level Bacon spells including Cook's Folly which was to finally allow arcanes to wield divine bacon by enslaving the Goddess of Bacon, Greastra.

    So now we can't have 10th level Bacon spells?

    and no ArchBacon PrE for Wizzabacons?

    You can't have ForgottenBacon content and the Baconese Legacy storylines and not include Cook's Folly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post
    It is working as intended that Bacon is both Primal as well as Divine. Rumors of upcoming Arcane Bacon are half-baked.
    Now, see... this is just Dev hubris at it's worst!


    I mean, are you saying that Bacon isn't magical? bacon should have been Arcane before anything else - and I demand to know who is the vegetarian Dev who is holding bacon back from it's true potential! Bacon is magic! It's made of magic!!!


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    Default When Will Turbine Fix the Loot?

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    Why bother setting up a Player's Council, when you're going to do such a huge nerf like this without running it by them first?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelstar View Post
    - The fat content of Bacon was too high, and is being reduced by 25%. This fix will apply retroactively to existing Bacon.
    KEEP THE BACON FATTY! That's what makes it so good.

    I'll be protesting the bacon-nerf on the Market bridge on Wayfinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelstar View Post
    - The fat content of Bacon was too high, and is being reduced by 25%. This fix will apply retroactively to existing Bacon.

    This is a clear nerf to bacon! Everybody knows the flavor comes from the fat. I have already canceled by sub and am ashamed at the direction this game is going!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post
    It is working as intended that Bacon is both Primal as well as Divine. Rumors of upcoming Arcane Bacon are half-baked.

    For this update, we're prepared to ham it up.
    Arcanecat can haz bakon?

    edited for moar bacon
    Last edited by fool101; 04-01-2014 at 01:00 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirValentine View Post
    Why bother setting up a Player's Council, when you're going to do such a huge nerf like this without running it by them first?



    KEEP THE BACON FATTY! That's what makes it so good.

    I'll be protesting the bacon-nerf on the Market bridge on Wayfinder.

    Occupy Pan Grease!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelstar View Post
    -- Aura of Bacon: You project a 15 meter Aura of Bacon, providing +(2/4/6) Bacon Bonus to Charisma for all nearby allies, but Carnivorous (and Omnivorous) enemies in your Aura are drawn to you automatically.
    Darnit, Steel.

    Again, you forget that, that really does nothing for Druid wolves and arti dogs.

    I thought it was supposed to provide them +2/4/6 Bacon Bonus to Strength and Dexterity to simulate salivation/hunger rage for the wolf and high performance lubricant for the arti dog.

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    Any word on fixing the missing ham-heads on most hambies?

    This bug has been needing fixing for as long as I can remember!
    In fact the only quest I can even recall where hambies correctly have hams for heads is Delirium, all other hambies are still missing the right texture. Hambies in quests like Necropolis I-IV, Unquiet Graves, Catabombs etc. are still showing some grotesque, not very yummy looking, textures on top of their shoulders.

    I know it's only a graphical bug, but it ruins immersion for me!

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    Are frying pans going to be considered centered weapons?
    I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was, now what's it is weird and scary to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyDuck81 View Post
    Are frying pans going to be considered centered weapons?
    Only if you splash 5 levels of cook and take the enhancement Fries Like The Wind. They can be dual wielded though if you take the feat .

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