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    Quote Originally Posted by Eth View Post
    Hm, good idea actually, hadn't thought of that. US is 30% (twistable) while blocking (I guess i need a 28% cloak then for stacking purposes?) and divine epic past life another 10 - 30%.

    Also improved evasion helps a lot obviously (which I don't have).
    Exactly what I was thinking. We have more than just evasion, so let's see what we can do with the whole toolkit instead of just the hammer.

    Of course now I'm thinking of a rogue s&b build taking advantage of all the mitigation bonuses...

    Also, the sentinel twist does stack with the same value of an item as it's typed differently (last I checked was before u21, so mandatory grain of salt). That way you could have fire shield, 30% cloak, and the potential of the firestorm greaves for lots of defense in that instance. Having improved evasion, even without actually making the save, equates to a very serious meta game setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
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    Sorry, I kept saying evasion when I meant pally saves. Your evasion is useless in most of the endgame without the saves that pally offers, that's my ultimate point.

    Again, you keep referring to your whopping 15 AP that are leftover. Go ahead, spend them and see what you come up with =D

    I already tried this on multiple occasions, and its just bleh in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmanis View Post
    Having improved evasion, even without actually making the save, equates to a very serious meta game setup.
    Instead of blocking only ( when you are blocking you are not moving ), wouldn't twisting Fire Sheath and wearing 30 or 33 absorb be better ? Fire shield scrolls can be interrupted and it's a pain to keep an eye on that.
    Another fire absorb gear piece doesn't do much after 50 + 30, does it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encair View Post
    Instead of blocking only ( when you are blocking you are not moving ), wouldn't twisting Fire Sheath and wearing 30 or 33 absorb be better ? Fire shield scrolls can be interrupted and it's a pain to keep an eye on that.
    Another fire absorb gear piece doesn't do much after 50 + 30, does it ?
    Depends on how hard you're getting hit. I know the different blocking bonuses you can get if using the PDK shield are:

    30% ETR Divine
    30% Block Energy twist
    40% Shield Deflection feat
    20% PDK Shield

    This all told gives you 76.48% damage reduction. That 1200 damage fireball now does ~400

    Then we can add

    50% Energy Sheathe
    33% Firestorm Greaves (if you're lucky, cannith crafting has something similar I think)
    30% Prismatic Cloak Red

    If I do the math correctly, that all adds up to...a lot.

    Me not being able to do math correctly. I came up with a .3% damage taken, which is absurd and completely wrong.

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    I have yet to do EE so I might be completely wrong, just saying that standing still ( or even tumbling + blocking ) there doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

    Sheath+ 33 absorb gives you basically the same benefit as active past lives stance, blocking only twist and low mdb shield.

    Maybe ask Shiradi for Absorb too.
    If you decide to tank drake at least when it's tankable, knockdown immunity and Sentinel would make sense.
    Whole idea sounds crazy to me anyway To get intim off after they reset their aggro, supercharged melee attacks ( aka get the hell out, even with succesful intims, I bet you lose aggro to any Furyshotter )... too much headache when you can run circles around it for 30 mins without getting hit once on a ranged toon.

    But if you pull that tanking off, I wanna read about that !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmanis View Post
    40% Shield Deflection feat
    Unless they changed how it works, Shield Deflection is a chance of avoiding dmg entirely while shield-blocking, not a reduction in how much dmg you take: the bigger the shield, the more likely you are to, well, deflect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Unless they changed how it works, Shield Deflection is a chance of avoiding dmg entirely while shield-blocking, not a reduction in how much dmg you take: the bigger the shield, the more likely you are to, well, deflect.
    Reading comprehension FTW! Thanks for the clarification.

    Regardless, fix my math. I think it's all screwed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    This is a huge problem with the current end-game. Being forced to splash pally for saves does suck.But come on, you ain't getting the 95 Reflex save anyway.
    Actually.. i am When twisting Draconic perception and uneartly reactions i am sitting on 90 reflex before 4 from boost and 10 more against traps. (Yellow circles count as traps) And since i have epic reflexes i am immune to any fire damage in that raid, well except some 20dmg numbers from metoer swamrs
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