Why Boulder Toss?

[Protasious]

Why was boulder toss included in the list of abilities not usable while raged or in an anti magic field? This is an ability from fury of the wild epic destiny, the barbarian epic destiny, a destiny with the majority of its abilities only usable while raged, and yet one of the abilities in this destiny now cannot be used while raged? sorry but this doesn't make any sense at all.

[blerkington]

Hi,

I'd be more inclined to agree with you if the damage from boulder toss wasn't jacked up to such extraordinary heights by metamagic feats and spellpower.

As it is now, it works exactly like a spell. And you very rarely see anyone other than casters using it.

That being said, I would not be surprised at all if it was an unintentional nerf. We'll see, I guess.

Thanks.

[Satyriasys]

It should probably not be boosted by metamagic & spellpower but by str. This should not be considered a magic affect. I always saw it as a strong ranged attack for melees not an extra force sla for casters.

[Protasious]

well your partially right, it does scale with force spell power, but it cannot be effected by any metamagic feats.

It is just really odd that an ability based on strength for its dc in the fury of the wild destiny would not work while raged.

[Qhualor]

Why was boulder toss included in the list of abilities not usable while raged or in an anti magic field? This is an ability from fury of the wild epic destiny, the barbarian epic destiny, a destiny with the majority of its abilities only usable while raged, and yet one of the abilities in this destiny now cannot be used while raged? sorry but this doesn't make any sense at all.

100% agree

[Qhualor]

It should probably not be boosted by metamagic & spellpower but by str. This should not be considered a magic affect. I always saw it as a strong ranged attack for melees not an extra force sla for casters.

this

when i think of boulder toss, i think of a barbarian picking up a boulder and using his str for damage and distance to throw it. doesn't make sense for this to be boosted with spellpower.

[Dendrix]

Force spellpower also affects physical spells.

[Stormraiser]

It should probably not be boosted by metamagic & spellpower but by str. This should not be considered a magic affect. I always saw it as a strong ranged attack for melees not an extra force sla for casters.

But that is not the case. BS works like a single target spell.

[Healemup]

*snip* BS works *snip*.

BS works if you have the right target.

[Ancient]

Hi,

I'd be more inclined to agree with you if the damage from boulder toss wasn't jacked up to such extraordinary heights by metamagic feats and spellpower.

Then you can agree, because boulder toss doesn't take metamagics, therefore it doesn't get jacked up by metamagic feats AND spell power.

[Ancient]

It should probably not be boosted by metamagic & spellpower but by str. This should not be considered a magic affect. I always saw it as a strong ranged attack for melees not an extra force sla for casters.

It is something nice in the destiny for casters (very nice), but Turbine has stated the would like each destiny to have a little something for everyone.

[Chai]

Cant throw rocks in antimagic fields? Cant explain that! /pic of bill oriley.

[blerkington]

Then you can agree, because boulder toss doesn't take metamagics, therefore it doesn't get jacked up by metamagic feats AND spell power.

Hi,

Good to know, thanks for the correction.

Still, it would make far more sense to me if it behaved more like a physical attack and was not suppressed by antimagic fields.

Thanks.

[Ancient]

Beholders are still easy

[Protasious]

Cant throw rocks in anti-magic fields? Cant explain that! /pic of bill oriley.

exactly!

would be nice to have a dev chime in here and explain if this is WAI or not... I assume it is, but I also really feel like it should not be this way.

after all, why would a barbarian care about magic when he is picking up a boulder to throw at the mob across the room or across the path?

I can see having a strength requirement of 20 or 22 or something like that to be able to use the ability, but cannot see it being on the list of abilities not usable while raged or in an anti-magic field.

Energy burst and tsunami yeah I can see those not being usable while raged / in anti-magic field. you are clearly using magic to perform both...