EE-Capable Caster Clonk? + other qns

[SirValentine]

Well I always wonder what would be better evo clonk or necro clonk. If I build for both Ill end up with around 65 DC on both but I guess thats not enough anymore.

Well, I'm pure Cleric, not clonk, but you can get higher than 65. I'm primary Necro-specced, with a bit of Evo, and have sustainble 71 Necro & 68 Evo. And I'm not absolutely maxxed out yet, either (though finding a +6 Wisdom tome will likely be difficult). Even 65, though, will work well in most content. If you run EE Storm Horns in particular, though, every point is critical.

Evo is easier to achieve but honestly has only 1 good spell - Implosion
Necro on the other hand - Slay Living, Destruction, Undead to Dead

Yes, that's why I went Necro. Also, Divine Disciple makes Necro more viable for a Cleric than it was in the old, old days.

Do you guys take spell pen feats? I have 3xwizz PL and 3x FvS PL and wonder if I really need them.

For most content, those PLs plus a piece of gear will be plenty.

More than one Spell Pen feat, no way no how. Too feat-starved and not needed, if you have the PLs. A single Spell Pen feat will give you the option of picking up and twisting in Piercing from Draconic, too, basically only for when you're running EE Drow content.

[Candela90]

Well, I'm pure Cleric, not clonk, but you can get higher than 65. I'm primary Necro-specced, with a bit of Evo, and have sustainble 71 Necro & 68 Evo. And I'm not absolutely maxxed out yet, either (though finding a +6 Wisdom tome will likely be difficult). Even 65, though, will work well in most content. If you run EE Storm Horns in particular, though, every point is critical.



Yes, that's why I went Necro. Also, Divine Disciple makes Necro more viable for a Cleric than it was in the old, old days.



For most content, those PLs plus a piece of gear will be plenty.

More than one Spell Pen feat, no way no how. Too feat-starved and not needed, if you have the PLs. A single Spell Pen feat will give you the option of picking up and twisting in Piercing from Draconic, too, basically only for when you're running EE Drow content.

May I ask for breakdowns? With my evo/necro build I got to:

Wisdom:
18 base
+5/6 enhancements (6 if I spend points on trash in warpriest for that 1 wisdom)
+7 lvl ups
+5 tome
+4 Exalted Angel destiny
+2 ship
+2 monk stance or capstone (depends if pure or clonk)
+ 2 twisted acute instincts
+2 yugo pot
+11 item
+3 insightful
+1 exceptional
+1 litany
___
So around 64 wisdom with let's say +2 from ascedance from time to time.
So mod would be 27/28

Now evo dc:
10 base
+9 heighen
+5 item
+1 wizz PL as a feat
+ 1 PL Sorc (I jave only 1)
+ 2 draconic twist
+3 feats
+27 wis mod
+3 Exalted Angel bonus
+2 augument
___
63

Necro dc:
10 base
+9 heighen
+6 item
+1 wizz PL as a feat
+3 EA bonus
+3 feats
+27 wis mod
+2 enhancements
+3 magister twist
+2 augument
___
66

What am I missing? I miss like 5 DC from what you told me, thats a lot .

+2 possible from new shadowscale and weapon, and I miss +6 tome and 2 points of ED. But what more?

[SirValentine]

May I ask for breakdowns?

Sure, though instead of repeating it all here, I'll just point you to my breakdown post in my build thread:
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5301320

+5/6 enhancements (6 if I spend points on trash in warpriest for that 1 wisdom)

It's not THAT bad...10 Light & 10 Fire spell power, 5/- DR, 15 HP, and 10 PRR, while not amazing, is far from useless, too.

What am I missing? I miss like 5 DC from what you told me, thats a lot .

+2 possible from new shadowscale and weapon, and I miss +6 tome and 2 points of ED. But what more?

I didn't see +2 DC from Divine Disciple in there. Or at least the +1, if you want Aura Tier 5 from Radiant. Then some Wisdom: the 2 from ED you mentioned and Great Wisdom feat x2, both straight-forward. And, OK, not so easy to get, but Completionist.

Also, it's good to note that a Thunder-Forged 2-hander is fully matched for Wisdom casters by two 1-handers, one Thunder-Forged and one Alchemical. Not saying you need an Alchemical, as you reach the same totals either way, but if you already have an Alchemical (as I did), you don't gain anything by giving it up.

[phalaeo]

Awesome, I like such pictures much more than "paper theories".
But you have all twists occupied to get that DC now no ? What is the reflex, prr and dodge if I may ask ?
Anyway, super cool, it's like seeing Tasmanian Tiger, noone play these anymore, so .. /sticking with DCs highfive !

Yeah, saves go down a bit. I've got two screenies- both are 18% Dodge. DC is still 70 evo. I'm a little light on HP, but I really only die when I'm swarmed with mobs and can't move, or if I roll low on an elite trap. I've got Brace PL x 3, Sorc PL x3, Cleric x 3, Morninglord x 1.


This one is with Parrying on bracers (Sun Soul or Greater Convalescent of Sup Parrying)





This one is swapping out the Parrying bracers for Dumathoin's

[phalaeo]

Cool, thank you. Shadow dragon breath is really the worst nightmare for my cleric, but I would still choose pure until someone shows me 70 evo clonk. And not just on forums

It takes me long enough, but finally got it. Standing 70 evo DC, 73 with Ascendance, Yugo and Store pot.