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    Community Member Dyesalot's Avatar
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    I have been trying to figure out what sort of PDK build I want and decided a Melee Winter Wolf might be fun. I have never played a druid anything before and very limited exposure to monks. Problem I am having is weighing in on what is more beneficial to this build. After reading the forums I saw a number of ideas but nothing that really fit the bill. I started playing around with the character planner and came up with this first draft but really need some advice on getting synergy between the monk and druid aspects of the build.

    Things I want in the build.= PDK- Past Life Druid- Do not want to mess around with using a stone to swap out the first lvl fighter. The tomes listed are what are currently on the character and none are really critical to the build other then the +3 Dex and +4 Str. Both of which you can probably swap things around with lvl ups to get the 23 needed for OC and the 17 for ITWF
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    My biggest quandary is how important are M and GM of forms for feats as opposed to say natural fighting.. Was trying to fit in up to GM of forms but just couldn't do it. I can sacrifice one of the epic feats say the perma haste for Master but just didn't see how I could squeeze in the GM anywhere without getting rid of natural fighting or ITWF etc. Other questions are defense. I have shored up a few areas but as you can see there are some serious gaps. reflex save being foremost. I still need to work on the enhancement tree so anything that you can suggest is more then welcome. With 3 barb and 2 fighter past lives my strategy in the past is rather simple.. if its dead it don't hit back. SP are mainly for buffs so dc's are low. Not looking to solo EE content by any means but EH should be easy enough.

    So without further commentary hear is my drunkin mutt

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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02
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    PDK Mutt 
    Level 28 Lawful Neutral Purple Dragon Knight Male
    (2 Fighter \ 6 Monk \ 12 Druid \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 456
    Spell Points: 1459 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 20
    Reflex: 12
    Will: 19
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 28)           (Level 28)
    Strength             17                 23                   23
    Dexterity            14                 17                   17
    Constitution         13                 18                   18
    Intelligence         10                 13                   13
    Wisdom               16                 23                   23
    Charisma              8                 10                   10
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
    +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Dodge
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 2 (Druid)
    
    
    Level 3 (Druid)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Wolf
    
    
    Level 4 (Druid)
    Ability Raise: STR
    
    
    Level 5 (Druid)
    
    
    Level 6 (Druid)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Bear
    
    
    Level 7 (Druid)
    
    
    Level 8 (Druid)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    
    
    Level 9 (Druid)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Winter Wolf
    
    
    Level 10 (Druid)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
    
    
    Level 11 (Druid)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 12 (Druid)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Feat: (Selected) Natural Fighting
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
    Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Dire Bear
    
    
    Level 13 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Deflect Arrows
    
    
    Level 14 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
    
    
    Level 15 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Natural Fighting
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
    
    
    Level 16 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    
    
    Level 17 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 18 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Mobility
    Feat: (Selected) Natural Fighting
    
    
    Level 19 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
    
    
    Level 20 (Druid)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target
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    The 1 ftr level at level1 makes this a bit difficult to piece together, making you take sub-optimal feats for the monk bonus feats. If you could take PA/Dodge/TWF as monk bonus feats that'd free up feats for GTWF and forms

    Concerning forms, it depends greatly on what stance you plan on running in majority of the time. If in wind, its greatly beneficial to get to Grandmaster wind stance for the doublestrike and perma-haste like attack speed. if planning on earth, master is enough for the +1 critical multiplier on 19-20 and grandmaster form gives you very marginal benefits.

    In other words, the ftr1 at level1 really messes up feat progression and I couldn't manage to work around it.
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    I know that PDK 1st lvl is the fly in the ointment,. I think I will stick with the 3 NF feats and see how things go once I hit epics. Worst case run the daily does of jungles / wiz king a day for a week or 2 then tr again.


    Thank you for the reply
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyesalot View Post
    I know that PDK 1st lvl is the fly in the ointment,. I think I will stick with the 3 NF feats and see how things go once I hit epics. Worst case run the daily does of jungles / wiz king a day for a week or 2 then tr again.


    Thank you for the reply
    NP. Final thought is I'd swap 1 NF feat to fit in GTWF. Remember, unarmed gets full STR bonus to offhand so every offhand attack is like a double strike.

    90% offhand (GTWF + Shintao Deft Strikes) + 18% DS from 2NF vs. 70% Offhand (ITWF + Deft Strikes) + 27% DS from 3NF.
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    ok more woe. Went to load my original file and found out that when you switch a class unless you delete the feats of the class it holds them which gave an unrealistic amount of feats in the first posted build. Revamped and have the correct amount of feats and ended up losing one of the NF feats.

    Refurbished build does have Master of Forms at lvl 27 but you could swap out for GTWF if the forms are not a big issue or put in the 3rd NF . I personally went for the forms so I can get the extra +1 crit multiplier. It really doesn't matter unless your planning to grind out some fate points at lvl 28 which I am not.

    Tried to rework with 2 extra fighter lives and 10 druid but didn't like losing the druid enhancement tree if you don't have 12 lvls . I personally think this will work out ok but will probably be etr once I hit 28 for something more endgame viable. Think this should be a lot of fun however just for running out the PDK past life.

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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02
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    Level 28 Lawful Neutral Purple Dragon Knight Male
    (2 Fighter \ 6 Monk \ 12 Druid \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 456
    Spell Points: 1459 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 20
    Reflex: 12
    Will: 19
    
                      Starting            Ending          
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats        
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 28)        
    Strength             17                 23            
    Dexterity            14                 17            
    Constitution         13                 18            
    Intelligence         10                 13            
    Wisdom               16                 23            
    Charisma              8                 10            
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
    +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
    +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19
    
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 2 (Druid)
    
    
    Level 3 (Druid)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Wolf
    
    
    Level 4 (Druid)
    Ability Raise: STR
    
    
    Level 5 (Druid)
    
    
    Level 6 (Druid)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Bear
    
    
    Level 7 (Druid)
    
    
    Level 8 (Druid)
    Ability Raise: STR
    
    
    Level 9 (Druid)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Winter Wolf
    
    
    Level 10 (Druid)
    
    
    Level 11 (Druid)
    
    
    Level 12 (Druid)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Dire Bear
    
    
    Level 13 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
    
    
    Level 14 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
    
    
    Level 15 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Natural Fighting
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
    
    
    Level 16 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    
    
    Level 17 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 18 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Mobility
    Feat: (Selected) Natural Fighting
    
    
    Level 19 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
    
    
    Level 20 (Druid)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: WIS
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target
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    I was going through the forums and saw this which is what I'm planning to do on my next life and was wondering how this build went for you. Also what enhancements did you end up with? I'm asking b/c I'm in the middle of a monk life and would like to do a druid life next, still unsure if I'm going to use the pdk with it.
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    It actually went pretty good,. I took a few months leave from the game but got up to lvl 22 without any real flaws. Its not a powerhouse type build by no means bur it was fun to play and lvled quickly. I doubt I will take it to lvl 28. but will grind one or 2 fate points before tring. Going to be running a more conventional monk build on my next go around but it did get me my druid pl.
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