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    Default Gimme some build ideas?

    Hello there, citizens of the realm... I mean ddo players. Alright, I need some build ideas. I play slow, and I have never built a fighter before. My toon Maidae has 2 monk PL's and is currently 2 rogue/ 18 barb, sitting capped at 28 with all ED's xp capped as well. I am going to ETR + TR some time soon, and I would like to do a fighter life next. I am looking for self sufficient dps, that can hold her own in ee raids. This is pretty much what I have right now, but barbarian was meant to be only a past life, and her dps is much lower than I'd like.

    I need a build that is easy to level, should be able to solo a bit, even though my main focus is not to solo, and should be able to handle some ee content once I get back to epic levels. I do look at what others play, I am just not sure what would be fun and a good fit for me. Should I make a fighter/ monk, a fighter/ barb... or an aa fighter? What do you recommend? Also, for race I'd prefer not human. I currently have 3 humans and 2 elves, and I just don't like the look of the humans. I know, what about looks.. but if you play in 3rd person view, you are constantly looking at your toon, so you want something nice to look at.

    Thank you for any ideas/ advice.

    Cheers.

    P.S. I will make a plan on the planners as soon as I have some idea to start with.

    P.P.S It normally takes me ~10 weeks to level a 3rd life toon 1-20, because I play multiple toons every week.

    P.P.P.S I have access to all classes and races including iconics.
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    If you've got BF, Cetus is the obvious choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    If you've got BF, Cetus is the obvious choice.
    But where's the fun in that?

    You could go for a staff build, making something like a 12 Fighter 8 Rogue, but then you're just a rogue with a giant toothpick with a lot of strength from fighter (not a bad thing, I might add)

    There's also a build that I was contemplating, which is a 12 fighter 5 Rogue 3 Barbarian staff build, but as it's just a theory crafted setup it wouldn't exactly go for something like what you're wanting.

    A good question to ask is, what weapon are you wanting to use? I'm going to assume something like Cleaver, as that is the seeming weapon of choice for most builds as of yet.

    But in reality Cetus' build is probably your best bet. Plus grabbing a few fighter lives is nice for when you inevitably want something focusing on tactical dc's.

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    Thank you for your replies.

    Weapon of choice... I'm not sure. I have a bunch of wraps from monk lives, I have pinion and sireth, I'm missing the seal to make eSOS. This life I've been falchion focused using the falchion from CitW.

    I was pitched the 8 fighter/ 6 monk/ 6 ranger handwraps/manyshot build. That could be something.

    And for Cetus build... looks awesome and uber, but I don't want to make a copy. I also don't have a full set of +5 tomes.
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    8 fighter 6 ranger 6 monk

    Can be built as a moncher, more or less.

    Can instead be built as a twf that can switch to bow for manyshot

    Can instead be built to use thf with cleaves that can switch to bow for manyshot

    Can instead be built as a handwrap user with 100% off-hand, 10% from tempest and 10% from shintao, stunning fist etc, that can switch to bow for manyshot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmanis View Post
    But where's the fun in that?
    OP asked for a self-sufficient non-human melee DPS toon which qualified for ftr PL. I'm struggling to think of anything which fits the build better than Cetus. Heck, even if you don't want to make another monk / kensei, BF are still the natural choice; Reconstruct SLA is just that useful.
    There's also a build that I was contemplating, which is a 12 fighter 5 Rogue 3 Barbarian staff build, but as it's just a theory crafted setup it wouldn't exactly go for something like what you're wanting.
    Funny you should mention this, as I've got a HO rog/barb/ftr with a Raider's box I've been trying to decide what to do with. APs are the biggest stumbling block, since I wanted 32 APs in Acro for Staff Spec, 21 APs in Kensei for Power Surge, 16 APs in FB for Mad Munitions & Supreme Cleave, and 19 APs in HO for Brutality & extra Power Rage. Soon as I figure out how to make that work I'll let you know...
    Quote Originally Posted by Micki View Post
    And for Cetus build... looks awesome and uber, but I don't want to make a copy. I also don't have a full set of +5 tomes.
    Cetus has 3 stat pre-reqs: STR 23 for Overwhelming Crit, DEX 17 for Manyshot, and WIS 13 for Zen Archery. Everything else is just bragging rights. I've already shown it can be done on a 32-pt WF with +2s, so I trust whatever you have access to on a 36-pt build will more than suffice.
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    Have a look at Santa's Little Slayer in my sig. I'm having a blast with it. It is built around dual Balizardes, so I would expect it to be considerably weaker if you're not using those.
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    Thank you for your replies (again). I must look at the build ideas and see what I can come up with.

    One idea was to do the 8 fighter/ 6 monk/ 6 ranger as bf (would require a +1LR). Cetus build does look interesting, though. Hmm.

    I will most likely do a few fighter lives, so this will not be this toon's final life, but I will keep her epic for at least a couple of months. I must check what tomes she's used (at least all +3's, some +4's, one +5).
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    Default Messing around with the cetus build

    It always takes me forever to click through the levels and pick feats, etc. Here's a first idea at how my toon might look like as a cetus build. What do you think? (I checked the tomes used and they are as listed)

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    Maidae 
    Level 28 Lawful Good Bladeforged Female
    (12 Fighter \ 2 Paladin \ 6 Monk \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 430
    Spell Points: 167 
    BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
    Fortitude: 25
    Reflex: 17
    Will: 15
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength             17                    26
    Dexterity            13                    17
    Constitution         14                    19
    Intelligence          8                    11
    Wisdom                9                    13
    Charisma             15                    18
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 10
    +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 10
    +4 Tome of Strength used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 14
    +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 14
    +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 18
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
    Balance               1                    17
    Bluff                 2                    12
    Concentration         2                    12
    Diplomacy             2                    12
    Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
    Haggle                2                    12
    Heal                 -1                     9
    Hide                  1                    11
    Intimidate            2                    12
    Jump                  3                    16
    Listen               -1                     9
    Move Silently         1                    11
    Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
    Perform               n/a                  n/a
    Repair               -1                    21
    Search               -1                     8
    Spellcraft           -1                     8
    Spot                 -1                     9
    Swim                  3                    16
    Tumble                2                    12
    Use Magic Device      3                    23
    
    Level 1 (Paladin)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Lord of Blades
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 2 (Monk)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 3 (Monk)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Repair (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow
    
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    Skill: Repair (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave
    
    
    Level 6 (Fighter)
    Skill: Repair (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
    
    
    Level 7 (Fighter)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Rapid Shot
    
    
    Level 8 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Fighter)
    Skill: Repair (+2)
    
    
    Level 11 (Fighter)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 12 (Monk)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
    
    
    Level 13 (Monk)
    Skill: Repair (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 14 (Monk)
    Skill: Repair (+2)
    
    
    Level 15 (Monk)
    Skill: Repair (+2)
    Feat: (Selected) Manyshot
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery
    
    
    Level 16 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 17 (Fighter)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 18 (Fighter)
    Skill: Repair (+2)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
    
    
    Level 19 (Fighter)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Bow Strength
    
    
    Level 20 (Paladin)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Repair (+1)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    I'm gonna run the "santas little helper" build on the planner a bit later
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    Actually, I just made eSOS today for this toon, so an eSOS build it is. How's my levelling idea looking? Should I switch something around?
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