End Game Gear: +1 ki on hit / +10 stunning / healing amp?

[Kodwraith]

TL;DR:
What are people using for +1 ki on hit / +10 stunning / +healing amp% in their post-U21 gear layouts?

I'm soloing my main monk up to hit cap soon (26 and a half atm) and have been planning my semi-final gear layout.
Since I don't have a lot of free time and can't grind for endlessly rare items, I tend to favor random loot and things on epic normal I can get from the AH or chain rewards without wasting a ton of time. I basically solo 95% of everything on EH. So my build is heavily geared around healing, survive-ability and not getting hit. Stunnig fist is 64 self buffed.

Right now, I have this:
HWs: Antipode (not upgraded since I just hit 375 favor last night)
Armor: Spider Spun
Head: GS min2 helm +45 hp
Goggles: EN Shadowsight with PRR in the green slot
Neck: Natural Armor/Deadly necklace from Wheelon
Cloak: Jeweled Cloak
Ring 1: Consuming Darkness + deathblock
Ring 2: Random + 9% Dodge ring
Belt: Health + False life
Gloves: +30% healing amp Purple dragon gloves
Bracers: Riposte bracers from wheelon
Boots: EN Tread of Falling Shadow
Trinket: EE Shamanic with + Luck2

The main issue is that both SpiderSpun and Antipode and the gloves have three completely critical properties that I can't find on anything else: 1 ki, +10 stunning, +healingamp

At this point it's looking like this pretty much IS the stable gear layout for a solo wisdom stunner build. I'm doing +187 hp per FoL finisher. That and healing spring keep me alive (grinding thorugh shiradi at the moment).

Any ideas? The only other thing that looks viable is a Seal of DunRobar + stunning ring which is gonna happen right after never. Then put back on Oremi's necklace and hope Turbine starts making +healing amp yellow/blue augments.

[redspecter23]

Like you mentioned, the DunRobar ring is probably your next step and a very easy swap in for your current dodge ring. You just have to actually find one. That's the troublesome part. At least the matron is easy enough to solo.

Healing amp is a bit tricky. There really isn't a good piece of end game gear with 30% on it so you either use the less powerful gloves or lose the heal amp and get a better set of gloves. That may end up being a personal choice, but there are loads of good glove options if you do choose to free up the slot. Backstabber Gloves are great, providing both sneak attack and deception with a slot. Otherwise it's a decent spot to put +10 str if needed. I personally use the cannith challenge belt for +5 tactics and have +10 str/seeker 10 gloves, which gives me an extra ring slot to play with (though with 2 less seeker if you have the elite Consuming Darkness).

When I was on my monk lives, I never found +ki to be ultra important, though I probably wasn't maximizing my clickie usage. I'd tend to swap into fire stance from time to time to build it up a bit, then swap back to my other stances to use it. Not the most elegant solution, but once I moved on from Spider spun to black scale, I had to adjust.

[Kodwraith]

I had deliberately moved my gear around to try to make eventual room for a DunRobar ring and those crazy OP dex bracers from U21. It's looking like Shadowsight is gonna be the monk goggle of choice. After I take perma-haste at 27, the boots slot opens up. The lack of a Deadly Blue (or red) augment somewhat limits my choices.

I just took a look at Keylia's gear in the thread below. Some interesting ideas; I'd never actually thought about freeing up the bracers spot and using healing amp/parrying on random bracers.

At the moment, I'm shifting back and forth into Fire as I need ki. Shame that Henshin has no +1 on hit ability. Also shame there seems to be no +stunning enhacements anywhere. It's pretty much DunRobar ring or HWs and that's it.

Looks like I'll have a ton of matron farming in my future. -sigh-

[Robbenklopper]

TL;DR:
What are people using for +1 ki on hit / +10 stunning / +healing amp% in their post-U21 gear layouts?

I'm soloing my main monk up to hit cap soon (26 and a half atm) and have been planning my semi-final gear layout.
Since I don't have a lot of free time and can't grind for endlessly rare items, I tend to favor random loot and things on epic normal I can get from the AH or chain rewards without wasting a ton of time. I basically solo 95% of everything on EH. So my build is heavily geared around healing, survive-ability and not getting hit. Stunnig fist is 64 self buffed.

Right now, I have this:
HWs: Antipode (not upgraded since I just hit 375 favor last night)
Armor: Spider Spun
Head: GS min2 helm +45 hp
Goggles: EN Shadowsight with PRR in the green slot
Neck: Natural Armor/Deadly necklace from Wheelon
Cloak: Jeweled Cloak
Ring 1: Consuming Darkness + deathblock
Ring 2: Random + 9% Dodge ring
Belt: Health + False life
Gloves: +30% healing amp Purple dragon gloves
Bracers: Riposte bracers from wheelon
Boots: EN Tread of Falling Shadow
Trinket: EE Shamanic with + Luck2

The main issue is that both SpiderSpun and Antipode and the gloves have three completely critical properties that I can't find on anything else: 1 ki, +10 stunning, +healingamp

At this point it's looking like this pretty much IS the stable gear layout for a solo wisdom stunner build. I'm doing +187 hp per FoL finisher. That and healing spring keep me alive (grinding thorugh shiradi at the moment).

Any ideas? The only other thing that looks viable is a Seal of DunRobar + stunning ring which is gonna happen right after never. Then put back on Oremi's necklace and hope Turbine starts making +healing amp yellow/blue augments.

Hej hej,

broke my head about the same things. Especially since i shifted from Spiderspun-Set (which i loved) to Flawless White Dragon set (which advantages can´t be denied). Mainly running in Earth stance. I changed my "animal form" from Tortoise to Crane (really worth IMO for the loss of -4 penalty to Fortitude s & -20 HP in Exchange for Ki, can even have Lighting the Candle on and not getting sucked dry). I choosed the shintao-cap instead of henshin (which would give definetly better ki). I have full "contemplation" and full "Enlightenment" from GOF. I´m wearing jorgundals collar for alacrity+speed and could Switch to Oremis Necklace or Alchemist's Pendant for even more ki. (although in a personal, subjective test with Spiderspun-Set + Firestance +etc, whether oremis nor pendant seemed to raise ki-regain higher)

Antipode for stunning is great, my "consuming darkness" ring is still working and i have dunrobar ring (without contribution to DC anylonger, but dodge and ins+2 for str my choice). I prefere my EE "thunder and lightning" wraps with a slotted Devotion +132 for fighting and healing, 20% healing amp via human tree i can reach +200 HP in FOL finishers. spend most Points on healing while leveling up in skills. FOL is wonderful.

HWs: EE Thunder&Lighting Red Augment +132 Devotion / Antipode Tier1 (working on Upgrades)
Armor: Flawless White Tier2 (+Blue Aug)
Head: EH Flawless White Dragon (+Green Aug / +Col. Aug)
Goggles: EE Shadowsight (+Green Aug)
Neck: EE Jorgundals (+Green Aug / +Col. Aug)
Cloak: Epic Envenomed Cloak (+Green Aug.)
Ring 1: EN Consuming Darkness (+Yellow Aug)
Ring 2: Dunrobar
Belt: Belt of the sun soul
Gloves: Epic Charged Gauntlets (+Yellow Aug)
Bracers: EE Prisoners Manacles (+Green Aug / +Col. Aug)
Boots: Epic Corrosion Boots (+Green Aug / +Clo. Aug)
Trinket: Planar Focus of Prowess

[Kodwraith]

<quote>Belt: Belt of the sun soul</quote>
Robben: Have you thought about just getting a random "Health of False Life" belt with a colorless slot from the AH? Seems it'd be better based on the rest of your gear.


Thanks for the replies, I honestly hadn't thought about going back to Crane style as a ki boosting measure. I'm humna, but with my current Enhancement layout I didn't have enough points for any helaing amp from human.

Currently "Convalescent Bracers of Parrying" are going for around 400 shards on Khyber, so that option is out. And we thought DunRobar's was expensive. Nice idea though.

It looks like my best bet is to head over to white dragonscale set and shoot for this layout:

Head: EN White dragonscale helm (slot deathblock / +20 vitality)
Robe: White dragonscale robe (slot PRR in green)
Necklace: Guardian's Necklace (Deadly of Natural Armor) / Alchemical necklace (+20 HP and +1ki) is another possibility
Goggles: Shadowsight (green slot free)
Trinket: PF of prowess (after red slot on hws) / EE Shamanic (+2 luck) until full upgraded hws.
Cloak: EN Jeweled Cloak (Deathblock + 1 free colorless)
Belt: Health of FL
Wrists: Guardian's (Riposte from Wheelon) OR SunSoul Bracers.
Gloves: PDK Gloves
Ring1: EN Consuming Darkness (slot Resistance)
Ring2: +Dodge ring
Boots: EN Tread of Falling Shadow

In this layout, Antipode is pretty much glued to your hands as it's what's providing you doublestrike / improved fists / +10 stunning and eventually Devotion. You would only switch to straight dmg hws on a boss fight or for unstunnables. This layout is up 5hp / +6 AC (from shield on the robe) from my current layout. And it costs way more.

It seems like there's an emerging "final state for now" gear layout for monks:

ShadowSight in goggles slot
Durnathion's bracers on wrists
ShadowRobe for armor
Deadly Necklace of {Natural armor or Dodge}

Then a bimodal meta-set state between two different gear sets:
ConsumingDarkness + Dunrobar stunning + pure dmg HWs + free trinket slot + free cloak slot
Cloak of Bear + Antipode + PF Prowess trinket + Free Ring slots x2

[Robbenklopper]

Hej Kodwraith,

I have a slotted superior life Aug, but you´re right, there´s better to get than sunsoulbelt (will use arkads cord soon) and Switch to shintao-set from TOD to get +15 concentration and more dmg.

- 400 is really a horrible cost ...

I´d try to get the human 20% healing amp and Change the gloves to something else (Nether grasp or whatever) in this working layout. Where did you spend your AP for?

+5HP isn´t much, the +6 AC would be more when you see it suited, Extras are many and good. Benefits are more damage +prr from planar set. Antipode slotted with Devotion will be great. T&L is a great devastator.

-I think the Fort 130% on Shadowrobe is nice, but the other things ... wont beat the Tier3 Flawless White (?)

[Kodwraith]

I´d try to get the human 20% healing amp and Change the gloves to something else (Nether grasp or whatever) in this working layout. Where did you spend your AP for?

I solo 95% of everything on EH (I have kid and wife, so no time to wait around for groups)

I'm built around healing amp, FoL and Rise of the Phoenix. My AP went ~45 shintao to grab pretty much everything.
Then enough into Ninja to get No Mercy 3. What's left went to human +10% healing/dmg boost and then Henshin Crane form.

I've capped out GMoF and LD, working now on Shiradi to try to cap it for Perfect TWF at 28.

Other than that, I'm a pretty standard 34point, human lightside WIS build:
15 STR +4 tome
15 DEX +4 tome
15 CON +4 tome
16 WIS +4 tome + all level ups go here.
9 INT
9 CHA

The Standard Monk heroic feats for the +Dodge line:
Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack
Toughness, Stunning Fist, PA
TWF, ITWF, GTWF, ImpCrit:Blud

Epic Feats:
Imp Martial Arts
Vorpal Strikes
(perma-Haste next level)

ED Feats:
Legendary Tactics
Perfect TWF (at 28)

ED: Shiradi at the moment. Everything in Healing Spring and whirling wrist.
Twists: Legendary Tactics, Dance of Flowers when not in LD/GMoF

I have one more human feat that I currently have set to Imp Sunder, but I can't get my DC high enough to matter, so I'm switching it out for Cleave or QuickDraw.
I could've gone OC, but I think it's actually less dmg than Imp Martial Arts which works on everything. In GMoF, I hit for 8d8 + wraps dmg.

WIS usually sits around 46, STR around 30, CON around 34. With my gear layout, 720HP in earth stance, 90ish AC, 28% dodge, 40 PRR, 25% incorporeal from Dance of Clouds + 20% from Fade into shadows == I don't get hit a lot even in EH.

Standing Stunning blow DC is around 62ish without ship buffs / QP ~45 (QP was originally why I took ImpSunder, but now there's no point taking imp sunder).
I run almost everything in Earth stance.

Basically I can kill pretty much everything solo on EH EXCEPT level drainers.

[Robbenklopper]

Hej Kodwraith,

great to see somebody else balancing his stats close same like me. I´m in 3rd life with 36 buildpoints, left CHA on 8 on Startup and thought a while about investigating more STR for OC. It´s worth. I additionally have the imp martial arts and vorpal strikes, but didn´t went your dodge line, but it reads fantastic to see you having 28%.. I grind about only 15%, but hard to hit too with AC112 and prr 86.

About the AP: Rise of the phoenix was THE Thing before the enhancement System was introduced, but after i completely left it aside for partyplaying. About 50% of my time i solo with a hire. Rise isn´t a big contribution to Party worth to spend so many AP to get (only took the curse remover) but when you say, you solo 95% of your time, IT is a useful Thing and worth. So i don´t think you should Change your winning Team only to get 10% more on healing amp in the human tree.

Taking binding Speed is a good choice for future!

[relenttless]

Convalescent bracers are fabulous if you are lucky enough to have them, I have a 30% set with repair [blugh) however they also have an old school large slot which makes up for this, allowing me to slot 80 sp for cocoon in there.

Gloves are a bit tricky, andincredibly, I'm still using epic charged gauntlets at 28. Now, before you all die laughing, check them out, they have a yellow slot for more sp and they proc an insane amount....

Will have to replace them one day, but I like them, and have plenty of str from loot gen 10 bracers and dunrobar ring.

[Robbenklopper]

Gloves are a bit tricky, andincredibly, I'm still using epic charged gauntlets at 28. Now, before you all die laughing, check them out, they have a yellow slot for more sp and they proc an insane amount....

Will have to replace them one day, but I like them, and have plenty of str from loot gen 10 bracers and dunrobar ring.

Hej,

i do use the epic charged since i got them too, and i love them (still wearing in set wit cloak and boots for abishai Bonus. you might be laughing about this). Haven´t seen some better for my gear-config. They´re sooo strong in my opinion coz they throw lightings aaaaaallll the time, dealing 400-600 dmg to everyone around.

Don´t know how to replace them, only idea for me is with the nether grasps, but that won´t happen other there´s something really big to get.

[GMoneyMackDaddy]

Trying to go frome memory, might be off a bit

Helm: EH black dragon, CON 8, slotted globe, ins wis 2
Necklace: wis 10 with resistance 10
Trinket: EH shimantic fetish (devotion 114, slotted draconic soul gem)
Cloak: prismatic, violet w/nat armor 10 and slot. (PRR 10, could do better)
Belt: EE akrats cord, good luck 2, ins con 2
Ring1: RNG Fort 120%, Prot 10
Ring2: dunrobar, ins str 2, dodge 8%, stunning 10
Gloves: RNG STR 10, Vitality 50 (not sure its called that but its +50 hps)
Boots: EH treads of falling shadow
Wrists: RNG CON 10, Dodge 10%
Armor: black dragon robe, slotted false lfe 30
Goggles: Deadly 10, wizadry 11

Need to log in and check and update.

I run shintao cap, do not have an enhancd ki item, dont really see an issue playing.

For HW:

EE adamantine knuckles, ruby of force, ruby of the glacier, ruby of endless night.
WW tier 2, with venerable upgrade I think (add fire damge too I think), slotted soverign acid I think.
EN thunder and lightning sl8tted soverign acid.
Antpodes, tier 1 (hardly use anymore)

Run in gmof earth stance 90% of the time, piercint clarty is nice with the black dragon robes, twist grim precision, leg tactics, cocoon, great for fort reduction. Backstabber gloves help, dragons edge will be sexy when I can upgrade it.

+1 ki gen on an item? Dont see the need for it.
Stunning 10? Dunrobar... no brainer.
Heal amp from shintao, also im human and maxed the human ejhancements for heal amp, pdk gloves.

With devotion slotted my positive spell power is over 200, FOL finisher has hit me for 300+, cocooon 100+ a tick

Updated gearset, also included the goggles slot.

[Kodwraith]

Trying to go frome memory, might be off a bit

Helm: EH black dragon, CON 8, slotted globe, ins wis 2
Necklace: wis 10 with resistance 10
Trinket: EH shimantic fetish (devotion 114, slotted draconic soul gem)
Cloak: prismatic, violet w/nat armor 10 and slot. (PRR 10, could do better)
Belt: EE akrats cord, good luck 2, ins con 2
Ring1: EN consuming darkness ( EE needed)
Ring2: dunrobar, ins str 2, dodge 8%, stunning 10
Gloves: PDK, or EH backstabbers (slotted str 6, need str7 augment)
Boots: EH treads of falling shadow
Wrists: rng fort125%, with protection 10
Armor: black dragon robe, slotted false lfe 30

That's a nice layout. What goggles are you using? I'm guessing Deadly of something?

One thing that seems common is that monks have enough innate awesomeness that you can actually run with random loot gear at 28 and be within spitting distance of the top of the top. You could actually do a lot worse than grabbing a lot of mastercrafted gear, a good set of +stunning HWs and be off to the races. this is actually one thing I really like about DDO: There are actually very few must-have items.

I'm wondering if all of you guys running with Jorgundal's Necklace have looked at moving over to Goatskin boots? It's basically Haste in a slot even on EN, and EN loot is way way easier to come by.

[GMoneyMackDaddy]

Updated my post above with new and current gearset, including goggles.

Including it here:

Helm: EH black dragon, CON 8, slotted globe, ins wis 2
Necklace: wis 10 with resistance 10
Trinket: EH shimantic fetish (devotion 114, slotted draconic soul gem)
Cloak: prismatic, violet w/nat armor 10 and slot. (PRR 10, could do better)
Belt: EE akrats cord, good luck 2, ins con 2
Ring1: RNG Fort 120%, Prot 10
Ring2: dunrobar, ins str 2, dodge 8%, stunning 10
Gloves: RNG STR 10, Vitality 50 (not sure its called that but its +50 hps)
Boots: EH treads of falling shadow
Wrists: RNG CON 10, Dodge 10%
Armor: black dragon robe, slotted false lfe 30
Goggles: Deadly 10, wizadry 11

Might put pendant of the stormreaver in necklace. idol of fortune in trinket slot, and put wis 10/res 10 into ring slot where the fort ring is. Keep the dunrobar for the ins str 2 and stunning 10.

(could slot wis10/res10 there in dunrobar ring slot.. but don't wanna be pigeonholed into using HW that have stunning 10 on them.)

[relenttless]

Updated my post above with new and current gearset, including goggles.

Including it here:

Helm: EH black dragon, CON 8, slotted globe, ins wis 2
Necklace: wis 10 with resistance 10
Trinket: EH shimantic fetish (devotion 114, slotted draconic soul gem)
Cloak: prismatic, violet w/nat armor 10 and slot. (PRR 10, could do better)
Belt: EE akrats cord, good luck 2, ins con 2
Ring1: RNG Fort 120%, Prot 10
Ring2: dunrobar, ins str 2, dodge 8%, stunning 10
Gloves: RNG STR 10, Vitality 50 (not sure its called that but its +50 hps)
Boots: EH treads of falling shadow
Wrists: RNG CON 10, Dodge 10%
Armor: black dragon robe, slotted false lfe 30
Goggles: Deadly 10, wizadry 11

Might put pendant of the stormreaver in necklace. idol of fortune in trinket slot, and put wis 10/res 10 into ring slot where the fort ring is. Keep the dunrobar for the ins str 2 and stunning 10.

(could slot wis10/res10 there in dunrobar ring slot.. but don't wanna be pigeonholed into using HW that have stunning 10 on them.)

You could consider the adamantine cloak of the bear, only 9 prr and protection 7 but gives you combat mastery 6, which is desirable, worth a look.also new shadow robe is nice with 130 fort plus a green slot, and a bunch of other stuff (plus it looks great).

[GMoneyMackDaddy]

Might try this gearset, on my lvl 28 human pure monk.

Necklace: Mystic eidolons upgraded, Ghostly, deathblock, ins con 4, ins dex 4
Trinket: Litany of the dead
Cloak: Adamantine/Bear
Belt: EE Akrats cord, ins wis 2, striding 30%
Ring1: RNG Wis 10, Res 10
Gloves: RNG Str 10, 50 hps
Boots: RNG Con 10, dodge 10%
Ring2: dunrobar, ins Str 2, dodge 8%, stunning 10
Wrist: Dunathoins, Dex 11, Nat armor 10, PRR 30, Elemental resist 45%, blue slot
Armor: White DS, Armor 10, fort 100%, Prot 7, Shield 6
Goggles: RNG Deadly 10, sustenance 15
Helm: White dragon helm, ins Str 3, +50hps, (slot globe of imperial true blood, 200 mana)

Actually could use any dunrobar ring, as long as it has stunning 10

This might (and looks to be), a far better setup for endgame (for me anyway)

Edit: unless EE shadowsight dropped, I load that, switch ring to deadly 10, res 10 if possible.

[xoowak]

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This might (and looks to be), a far better setup for endgame (for me anyway)

Have you thought about dropping white dragon for shadowscale/dragon masque here? You'd lose 50 HP, 1 STR and some AC, but gain Ghostly, Deathblock, +1 tactics DCs, +9 sneak attack dmg, +2d6 negative dmg, +1 dmg (upgrades deadly to XI) and deception. Plus you can free up any one of your RNG slots for something else.

[Kodwraith]

Have you thought about dropping white dragon for shadowscale/dragon masque here? You'd lose 50 HP, 1 STR and some AC, but gain Ghostly, Deathblock, +1 tactics DCs, +9 sneak attack dmg, +2d6 negative dmg, +1 dmg (upgrades deadly to XI) and deception. Plus you can free up any one of your RNG slots for something else.

Also where are you slotting Seeker? With the Dragon Masque / Shadowscale robe, you could also move something to your ring slot then craft a +45HP GS item in whatever you move out.

[GMoneyMackDaddy]

Also where are you slotting Seeker? With the Dragon Masque / Shadowscale robe, you could also move something to your ring slot then craft a +45HP GS item in whatever you move out.

Actually, dragon masque and shadowscale m7ght be better, could alsways sw7tch back if turbine ever makes AC relevant.

[relenttless]

yep, I'd think about a greensteel blurry hp item with displacement on it...they never go out of fashion

[Kodwraith]

BTW someone in one of these threads recently mentioned taking Magical Training and twisting in Cocoon for unlimited healing with echoes of power.

OMG, you're brilliant. That's the best exploit since the Exploiter.

I switched my lvl 18 feat over to magic training then soloed the entire Storm Horns chain on EH with not particularly awesome gear. The last fight in What Goes Up took me the better part of an hour running around in Shiradi 5. But the fact I survived at all, was unbelievable.